Perhaps off topic, but a breath of fresh air and something that rings true with me...why springs always follow winters:

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Who pushed Humpty-Dumpty? A 'conspiracy' primer

By Wayne C. Johnson ) 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

The eventual popularity of every decent conspiracy theory may be reliably predicted by measuring the breadth and width of the initial presumption. It is not good enough to allege that Humpty-Dumpty was pushed. That Humpty-Dumpty was pushed must be presumed. The question is, "Who did it?"

Don't get me wrong. There have been some colossal conspiracies. For generations, men of both good and ill will (and it has been, for the most part, men) have organized secret societies, tongs, lodges and caucuses to topple regimes, improve education, enslave millions, eliminate war and poverty, etc. The only thing which these conspiracies have in common is that, for the most part, they have failed.

One reason for the remarkable failures of so many cabals is, as John Perry Barlow puts it, "Information wants to be free." Most conspiracies, like crime in general, come to light not as the result of diligent investigation, but because an insider blows the whistle. Why? Because conspiracies must deal with the human element -- the sinful human element. The very sinful nature that makes conspiracies dangerous, invariably leads to their unraveling.

Of course, I am at a distinct disadvantage here. I can point to countless exposed secrets and failed conspiracies. I cannot, however, prove the negative. "What about the successful conspiracies, the ones we have not uncovered?" As Jack Kemp said during the "trust but verify" debate in Congress, "We have never found anything that the Soviets have successfully hidden." Hmmm.

I can, however, point to dozens of examples of conspiracies that came tumbling down because somebody talked, bragged, switched sides, double-crossed, rose above, or sank below their fellows. Sinful human nature.

Rush Limbaugh has come under fire -- most recently by Sam Blumenfeld in the Oct. 8, 1999 edition of WorldNetDaily -- for painting conspiracy buffs with a broad brush, failing to distinguish between the serious scholars and the, shall we say, reality challenged.

Blumenfeld heaps praise on Limbaugh for his "... perceptive and humorous critiques ... dissecting the stupidity and hypocrisy of liberals." Limbaugh's disservice is, apparently, that he also lambastes "those of us who believe in a world government conspiracy."

We could dance around the central issue, but why bother? The issue is not so much whether history is being subverted to serve evil, but rather whether such subversion can ultimately be successful. The Manichaens disagreed with the early Christians over this very issue. The Christians argued that evil was a corruption of the good, for God had made all things good. The Manichaens believed that evil had its own existence and power, which warred against God. And history? Well, that was a jump ball. Could go either way.

I subscribed to "World Affairs" once, the journal of the Council on Foreign Relations, and I can tell you exactly how the CFR plans to take over. They're going to put us all to sleep by making us read "World Affairs." Once we're all comatose, they can put little computer chips in our brains that will make us eat tofu and vote for Donald Trump. That's their plan.

Our plan, on the other hand, is apparently to put ourselves to sleep. What makes modern conspiracy buffs so, well ... tiresome, is that they are throwbacks to the old prophet Mani. Good might win (probably not), but the Conspiracy has all the power, the wealth, the banks, and the places of higher learning, not to mention Lakers season tickets. And poor old us? We can't beat them unless we read each others' books and enclose $25 to become a Sustaining Member. Grant, for a moment, that Sam Blumenfeld is right ... about Rush, I mean. (Sam's right about most everything else.) Rush is simply responding to the chorus of criticism which he has routinely received from those who can abide anything but the notion of victory, that faint glimmer of hope flashing like lightning on the distant horizon. The truth is that Rush has the audience he does, not in spite of his positive worldview, but because of it. Good triumphs. What a concept.

Sure, "the kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord, and against his anointed," but the Second Psalm also says that "He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh, the Lord shall have them in derision."

Are world governments conspiring to steal our life, liberty and property? Of course they are! They're run by people who chose government as a career. What did you expect? But if they can't deliver the mail, balance a checkbook, or define the word "is," why are we so worried? In fact, one could make a very good case that government will be the least of our problems in the new millenium.

The fact is that conspiracies in the modern era are no longer the agents of change they once sought to be. At best, they are composed of the living anachronisms of the old order, desperately seeking ways to cling to the last vestiges of power which daily slip from their hands into the indifferent fingers of billionaire computer nerds in tennis shoes.

Bureaucratic government itself, has become an anachronism, apparently incapable of doing to the new online economy and media about the only things government presumes to do well, intimidate, regulate and tax. Even little WorldNetDaily made the IRS blink.

It's a brave, new world, all right, but not the one Aldous Huxley had in mind. The individual has been enormously empowered. We stand at the threshold of an opportunity to expand prosperity and human freedom which the Founding Fathers could not have imagined. All we lack is their vision. Sure, let's keep exposing the crimes and follies of the corrupt oligarchy that imagines itself in control, but let's not grant them the presumed permanence which much modern day conspiracy theory assumes as foundational.

Besides, it is entirely possible that Humpty-Dumpty had it coming.

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), October 13, 1999

Answers

"At best, they are composed of the living anachronisms of the old order, desperately seeking ways to cling to the last vestiges of power which daily slip from their hands into the indifferent fingers of billionaire computer nerds in tennis shoes."

I heard on the news awhile back that a billionaire computer nerd had traveled to Brussels. Later someone told me he has traveled there many times. Why? Coprolith. Are you, "they"? And no, I don't have locks on every cabinet in my humble dwelling.

-- the Virginian (1@1.com), October 13, 1999.

Coprolith. I beg your forgiveness. Heck, I am tired and wasn't paying attention to who was writing the above.

-- the Virginian (1@1.com), October 13, 1999.

Spring indeed follows Winter but who's left from the Fall folk to enjoy it depends on the Winter. That's the game.

As for Humpty, he does deserve it but will the great *we* put him back together or will the King's Men? The real challenge in post y2k is the nature of *we*. Me, I like the ballot box and the courage needed to make it work.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), October 14, 1999.

Isn't there a remarkable resemblance between Web Hubbel and H. Dumpty?

Hmmmm...

-- Gordon (g_gecko_69@hotmail.com), October 14, 1999.

Does anyone else know about the fact that Rush L."s radio station is owned by Phil Donahue; a very staunch supporter of Bill Clinton?

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), October 14, 1999.

Sorry, Coprolith, the article you post is one big meaningless generalization, with a few wry comments thrown in for color.

My local software billionaires in tennis shoes (and stretch limos) are masons (not all masons involved in conspiracy, but any secret society is tailor made for covert planning, and the masons have a history of being used in this way. Intelligence agencies are very similiar, in organizational structure, to initiatory groups). One's a Bilderburger. The super rich work in concert. They have a plan. The plan is for a one-world government, with a world army, and a microchipped population (i.e., every slave's financial activity, whereabouts, speech and hearing will be recorded via biotelemetry). The current, absolutely ferocious effort to grab all our guns is a necessary and logical step to this aim, as is the universal i.d. card, as is the UN's open demand for the power to tax, and a world army. It's all happening out in the open, and the "computer nerds" are 100% on board. Where is the evidence that this open, well-documented effort, to subvert the sovereignty of our nation and assimilate it into an authoritarian world government, is failing or faltering? The mere fact that, like Y2k, it can be discussed (in Worldnetdaily?!) as if it were "business as usual" and nothing to worry our little heads about, is a sign that that we're at the 11th hour.

Far from being business as usual, we are at an historical turning point. Communications, survelliance and crowd-control technologies make world-government temptingly possible, perhaps for the first time. In order for this to occur, disorder, disaster and warfare will be staged, to finally dissolve the old social and political forms (this has been prepared for culturally for some time now) and make survivors of the coming phase eager to embrace the solution the controllers have prepared. It will be "socialism" in appearance only. An entrenched elite will rule, and THEY WILL BE THE SAME FAMILIES THAT HAVE RULED THE PLANET FOR CENTURIES AND CONTINUE TO RULE IT TODAY.

Unless we 1. Recognize the agenda for what it is (the above), and 2. Stop it from being implemented.

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), October 14, 1999.

Liberty, you know that I resonate to your postings, which have the distinct ring of truth to them, from all I've read. But my question still remains, the one I wrestle with and never receive an answer to: in reply to your second point -- HOW? How when TPTB are so wealthy and powerful and far along in their plan, and most people are asleep?

-- Elaine Seavey (Gods1sheep@aol.com), October 14, 1999.

Elaine,

Know the truth, speak the truth, stand up for the truth. Refuse to be a slave. Think independently, and summon all the individual initiative you can muster. Be of good cheer. Become as independent of the financial system as possible. Work with and support others who refuse to participate in a "cashless society" imposed by a plutocratic elite. If you can write, write, if you can speak, speak. Look into the workings of this system and expose them to public scrutiny. Encourage critical thinking and independent scholarship in every area of life, as a cultural value. Study the interworkings of organized crime, intelligence agencies, the corporate media, black-budget programs, secret societies, old boy networks, bureaucracies and aristocratic bloodlines. Know the "fronts" which they manipulate. Study the periods just before and during the Nazi rise to power (seems to be the NWO playbook). Write down what you know, preserve copies discretely, broadcast it as widely as possible - duplicate and download, "save early and often," as there may come a time when anything the Fed doesn't want you to have may be classified as "hate literature" and subject to confiscation. Contact people with similar interests. Get involved politically on local issues that have to do with globalist encroachment on our national sovereignty; frame the issue in terms of WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE that we are surrendering our nationhood (say, our environmental laws) to (I'm a fairly good researcher, and I STILL can't get a complete roster of precisely WHO the World Bank is - they're worse than the Bilderbergers). Join in some of the "FREEPER" (denizens of freerepublic.com) marches on Washington. Follow the Freerepublic.com BB, and participate, at your discretion, in their "Action Alerts" to call or fax you representatives on a given issue. Support the right to keep and bear arms for personal and national protection. Read the Constitution. Read "The Federalist Papers." Take your kids out of the public schools (if at all possible) and school them at home, or in a safe, decent private school. Pay your taxes; don't get involved in organizations that are racist, that espouse violent solutions to problems that can be solved legally Of course, there will be a point where the anti-American, anti-Constitutional forces we speak of will push us into a true police state. If you can't speak, and you can't assemble, and you can't have access to information, and you can't participate in the legal and political system - what CAN you do? Be ready for that, and vigilant, as the Founders of this Country have told us it is our duty to be. But for now, that is a separate issue. You DO have access to the political system, and you CAN inform yourself, and join with others to put pressure on your representatives. So do it.

If you don't have the time or the energy to do all of these things, support those who do, if only by voicing your opinion. Don't be afraid. Speak out. If people don't like it, that's their problem. This is America; we have rights; we need to use them or lose them. It is better to do what little you can than to do nothing at all.

Don't wait for some father-figure to come along and lead you to freedom. Get your own life together and your mind alert and informed; then join with others who have similarly taken up that responsibility of citizenship. Make your own freedom, every day.

Does this answer your question? Ultimately, I believe only you can answer your question. What WILL you do, Elaine? Whatever you part is, begin it now, and I predict that your destiny will meet you halfway.

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), October 14, 1999.

Way to go Liberty--Let FREEDOM ring! I commend your positive attitude and hope it is contagious!

-- (I Believe (Repent@time is now.com)), October 14, 1999.

Liberty,

Somehow I expected you to show up here and sour the good vibes of that article! But seriously, thank you for being here. I agree the tone in it is a little glib. It's not particularly a masterpiece of scholarship or even chock full of facts. But I tend to agree with its basic idea...you obviously do not.

I do enjoy your posts. For heaven's sake KEEP IT UP and NOT JUST HERE because you are largely "preaching to the choir." I sure as hell hope you are wrong in your degree of paranoia (though surely some paranoia is a product of mere awareness, a survival instinct) but I can't disprove you in any way. Can you point me in the direction of more hard evidence of what you're saying? I mean, yeah, I know about the Bilderbergs but what good are they but rich people with ego trips but no real grip on reality?

Even if you are correct, trust me; you have a reason for hope. Evil is always self-destructive in the end. That is why it loses, or at least why it can never attain complete victory. What is the most Evil kind of evil but also the most vulnerable to self-destruction? Answer: pride. Anyone who wants complete (or oligarchical) control of the world is more than a little prideful. And they will ultimately fail.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't be vigilant or let evil roam freely. In that regard I can't thank you enough.

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), October 14, 1999.