Hey!

Several proported "trigger dates" have come and gone. Society continues to function just fine, thank you very much!

Only 80 days left! Quick doomers...predict the next "Day of DOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!". What's the next date you expect TSTHTF?????

PLEEEAAASSSEEEE don't wimp out and say...oh, six or so months into next year! Or do if you have to back peddle from your doomer drivel by that much! Answer the question...if you can...or not!!!!!

Everyday, Y2K looks better and better. Getting nervous doomer? Worried sick over the lack of BAD news????? Good news scare you???

If you are sticking to your doom and gloom scenarios, what are the dates when TSWHTF from the Y2K bug?????

What! Can't give any?????

BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

-- GENIUS (CODESLINGER@WORK.NOW), October 12, 1999

Answers

Im no expert...

I dont know when the shit will hit the fan as far as actual Y2K disruptions, but i do think PEOPLE will all try to hit the stores and get their supplies in December...knowing our complacent country, the last two weeks of Dec.

Just guessing...

Althought i must tell you that i dont give a SHIT whether anything bad happens or not. The point for me was that FAMILY PREPAREDNESS should be a way of life. Ill be ready for ANYTHING to come along be it Y2k or Earthquake or whatever...

How bout you GENIUS?

-- Cory Hill (coryh@strategic-services.net), October 12, 1999.

off off off

-- (off@off.off), October 12, 1999.

I may or may not be a doomer. I have said for the last year that there is about a 15% chance of "western" style civilization ceasing. There is less than 1% chance of no-one being killed somehow from the whole deal, and considering the rash of unexplained plant explosions this year, that has probably already happened.

The trigger dates are not the real deal. I have hoped that some of them would cause enough of a problem to precipitate real action to prepare for the POSSIBILITY of real widespread destruction. If no trigger date spurs action before the end of 1999, any real rollover catastrophe will simply be worse. All the people who have prepared have caused the supply lines to enlarge a tad for everyone else. The more who prepare for SOMETHING instead of insisting that nothing CAN happen will cause everyone to have more available in case anything does happen in your area. Any time a disaster of any kind happens anywhere, the powers that be ask for donations of the type of supplies that people here are purchasing in large quantities. If no-one ever prepared for more than today or this week, there would be very few donations or help in an emergency because the stock available in an area would be too slim. It is more blessed to give than to receive. How can I give if I am in need myself? If I am not in need I will not be competing with you in the relief lines. If you are in need I sincerely hope you will find much more tolerance and compassion than you are demonstrating. I hope you will not need it, but if you do, some of us might just save your life.

-- tree (thetrees@bigfoot.com), October 12, 1999.

GENIUS is clueless. I don't feel any pity for a big-mouth know-it-all. I do feel sorry for his/her family.

It ain't Y2K yet, GENIUS.

Tick... Tock... <:00=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), October 12, 1999.

I think this post should stay. It may convince quite a few folks that the pollys are idiots. It convinced me.

-- thanks for showing us that pollies are trolling morons (@ .), October 12, 1999.

Diane, please delete this thread.

-- MinnesotaSmith (y2ksafeminnesota@hotmail.com), October 12, 1999.

Greetings Genius,

January 1, 00

-- the Virginian (1@1.com), October 12, 1999.

DELETE THE gene-less jerk

-- (slimpikins@culo.net), October 12, 1999.

i have been quite for to long // when i see a person so in to thier own self // can not handle life for what it is // this thing happens all the time// it's just huge // it's just another deal to deal with // have to much on my mind // more later

-- j.d. honeycutt (showtron@monumental.com), October 12, 1999.

As I said last night, I am rather new to this forum. However, I cannot understand why those of you who seem to think that Y2k is no big thing even bother to post here. I am sure that there are other forums where those who see "No Big Problem" would certainly seem more comfortable. I came to this forum to learn not to debate whether or not something will happen. My mind is made up. All of the rhetoric in the world will not change my mind. Am I wrong in thinking the purpose of this forum is to discuss notable Y2k events or activities not to debate the existance of the problem? My intentions here are not to hurt anyone but to ask and learn.

-- Ruth Edwards (REath29646@aol.com), October 12, 1999.

Well Ruth, kinda sorta kinda.....

We tend to have those folks who truly believe that the doomers are simply destroying the lives of people who are trying to learn about the possible (NB: POSSIBLE) effects of the rollover, and they feel it necessary to "deprogram the dult aflicted".

And in answer to the requests for deletion, I think not. As long as it stays reasonably civil, it ain't a problem. After all, you click on what you want to click on, and after the first 25 words SHOULD have the ability to decide whether it's going to speak to your condition, and whether or not it is worth the time to read.

I, unfortunatly don't have the luxury, as I get to read almost all of the threads. Came with the desk (Portfolio) as it were.

Chuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), October 12, 1999.

Got 14 days of preps? If not, get started now. Click here.

Click here and check out the TB2000 preparation forum.

Can't get a good price on something? Click here and check out the cooperative preps thread.

-- Stan Faryna (faryna@groupmail.com), October 12, 1999.

First to Ruth:

You and me both. I fail to understand and you expressed my frustration perfectly. But, their opinions are as good as anybody elses, so let them post. Have to admit that a lot of what is on here is opinion, not fact. (Although 'fact' can be misleading. I can and have listed what can only be called Y2K remediation horror stories, and yet, since identifying me might well identify the company I work for, which would probably cause me to get fired before the 'big 00', and I need the checks between now and then to complete my preparations, it is hard for most people to evaluate the accuracy of what I say.)

Now to the main thread Genius:

12:01 am EST Jan. 1, 2000 (or 1900 depending on the state of your remediation efforts). I expect the power companies to go down, (and apparently there are at least 3 major companies in my area that do also as they have spent beaucoup bucks to install extensive backup generators, in our case and that of the folks across the street, enough to power our entire campus, with fuel for 2 weeks, although this may reflect how poor they think the local power company is, which shouldn't be taken as excepting the area, if ours goes, my best guess is yours will too), which will precipitate the problem, but by no means limit it. The stuff our company makes is going to fail. (Note that there isn't any equivocation there. Our stuff has been through 3 cycles of remediation, upgrades, tests and retests and failed every time. Current situation is 'Fix-on-Failure', with the senior engineering staff giving 'command performances' on the 31st, with the encouraging statement 'You'll think of something' in reply to the question, 'Just exactly what the heck am I supposed to do about failed hardware, operating systems, vendor software, not to mention our stuff?'.

You think your stuff is in great shape? I'd love to hear some good news for a change. Let me know.

-- just another (another@engineer.com), October 12, 1999.

Interesting the "trigger dates" can all be expressed with the currently worrisome ANSI six digit date format. Let's see ... are there any dates anytime soon that you can't express with six digits? Keep thinking Genius

-- PD (PaulDMaher@worldnet.att.com), October 12, 1999.

My guess is that Genius is actually a doomer posing as a polly.

-- Slueth (investiagting@you.people), October 12, 1999.

As long as it stays reasonably civil, it ain't a problem. -- chuck

OK, but I'm not sure if fuck you or eat shit is what you are looking for, clue me in please.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), October 12, 1999.

Genius CodPieceSlinger:

Watch the Stock Market this week!

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), October 13, 1999.

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001AdE

[snip]

Government's top Y2K expert predicts failures for weeks, months

July 30, 1999
Web posted at: 12:06 PM EDT (1606 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Don't expect the Year 2000 technology problem to disappear after Jan. 1. President Clinton's top Y2K expert said failures could extend well beyond New Year's Day.
 

Although John Koskinen predicts there will be a national "sigh of relief" in the early hours of Jan. 1, he also anticipates scattered electronic failures over the first days, weeks and even months of the new year.

Koskinen, chairman of the President's Council on Year 2000 Conversion, said in an interview Thursday with The Associated Press that some failures may not become obvious until the end of January, the first time after the date rollover that consumers review their monthly bank statements, credit-card bills and other financial paperwork.

"It won't evaporate until after that," Koskinen said. "Clearly, this is more than a January 1 problem." But he also slightly hedged his predictions: "None of us are really going to know until after January 1."

Unless repaired, some computers originally programmed to recognize only the last two digits of a year will not work properly beginning in 2000, when those machines will assume it is 1900.

Some computer systems may shut down quickly with obvious failures, and others may gradually experience subtle problems or degraded performance that may take weeks to notice.

"The more difficult problem will be where the system looks like it's doing it correctly but it's doing it all wrong," Koskinen said.

Some failures won't be recognized until the work week starts Monday, Jan. 3, as employees return to their offices and turn on their computers for the first time.

Repaired computers also will need to recognize 2000 as a leap year, even though most years ending in "00" don't need to adjust for Feb. 29, he said.

A new $40 million Information Coordination Center being organized down the street from the White House will operate until March, sharing information about failures with states, federal agencies, corporations and foreign governments.

[snip]

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), October 13, 1999.

doom (continued):"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine." NOT MY WORK!!

-- Jay Urban (jurban@berenyi.com), October 13, 1999.