Here's a post by Milne where he quotes the Washington DC consumers union who is advocating withdrawing 2 weeks cash. This is unsettling to the pollies like Flint, who think Paul should shut up and wait for further instructions, like the rest of the sheeple. Or to Decker, who regards Paul as a seditionist because he predicts bank runs. You be the judge:

Subject:	Yet Another 'Progression"
Date:	1999/09/27
Author:	Paul Milne <fedinfo@halifax.com>
	Posting History

The Washington, D.C.-based Consumers Union is recommending that people take two weeks' worth of their cash needs out of the bank, said spokesperson Sally Greenberg. People should keep it in cash or traveler's checks, she added. "If you're fairly affluent, that translates into a couple thousand dollars, or if you're not, like most of us, that may be between $500 and $1,000," Greenberg said. ================== 1. No need to take money out of the bank. 2. You might need enough to get through the weekend. 3. TAKE A WEEK TO TWO WEEKS WORTH OUT OF THE BANK 4. Take a months worth out. 5. Take it ALL out. Here is what has happened and how the 'rest of the story' will unfold. It will slowly unfold until it turns into full tilt PANIC. people have seen it said that you need not take any out, progress into take a couple days worth out. NOW, it is being recommended to take a couple WEEKS worth out. You know, A COUPLE THOUSAND. It won't be far behind that it wil be recommended to withdraw enough for a month and THEN, folks will begin to wise up and the runs will commence. Won't be long now. http://www.amarillonet.com/stories/092699/bus_fedboost.shtml -- Paul Milne "If you live within 5 miles of a 7-11, you're toast"

-- a (a@a.a), September 28, 1999

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This "progression" is that Milne has found the largest withdrawal recommendation he can -- which is $500-$1000 for most of us. He calls this tail end of the curve a progression. Finding every recommendation out there and averaging them wouldn't serve the purpose, because then the progression would vanish (since it never really existed at all) and the recommendation would be typical rather than at the extreme.

But why present the big picture when the wrong picture fits your convictions? Without question Milne is sincere. If you prefer sincerity to accuracy, this technique should make you happy, anyway.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), September 28, 1999.

This is why it is called a 'progression' flint-boy. It has yet to fully play out.

You know, a progression. Get it yet? A progression means that there is more to come little one.

Don't be impatient for your early grave.

-- Paul Milne (fedinfo@halifax.com), September 28, 1999.

My Dear Mr. Flint

Sir I am sorry...But your show isn't playing in Peoria any more. The stock market's gyrations, the South Americans' troubles. Earthquakes in Asia. Dear Lord my dear fellow! Do you think that all who read you are foolish enough not to believe (with certainty now) that you have a "VESTED" interest in blowing smoke rings. And with out a doubt you mislead with consumate skill and as about as much sincerity as a Cobra.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Shakey~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-- Shakey (in_a_buker@forty.feet), September 28, 1999.

--a,

Once again, thanks for these Milne posts. I don't have the time to dig thru the csy2k site for these, but I love to read them. Paul is so "in your face" that you just got to love the guy. No playing around the edges for him. I also like the occasional Cory post that is repeated here too.

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), September 28, 1999.

Flint, if you don't think this progression holds water, why don't you dig up that cash in your backyard and deposit it back in the bank?

-- a (a@a.a), September 28, 1999.

Here's an example of the stuff going on in the "No Problem" world of mainframes.

Subject: Attention -bks- Was: Abend 0C1/AKEA in CICS V4R1 Date:1999/09/27 Author: cory hamasaki Posting History

Ooo -bks-, here's a good one. The mainframe geek-speak in the 4 current replies are sound, interesting but do not identify the problem or solution. They are starting points, check this, look at that, etc. This isn't about this specific problem. It's a symptom of the state of the mainframe world. I've said all along that the remediation failed at Day 500 because there were few indications that the work was being done. We're now seeing evidence of the work being done. DeeCee is paying $176.80/hour for programmers and seems to be paying 24/7 per person (I don't understand that one). New contracts are being let in Australia. And in the Mainframe discussion areas, we're seeing more and more calls for technical support for setting up testing environments, applying operating system maintenance, and solving specific Y2K conversion problems. Yes, each item by itself is no big deal. You are right about that. The problem is the trend is *increasing*. We're seeing the kind of reports that we should have seen a year or two ago. When you put this together with the loony rants from Ko-skin-em, that everything is fine, that the banks are good-to-go, you see the disconnect. How can everything be fine? We have 95 days to go and they're still fixing 0C1s??? For the non-mainframers out there, OCx abends are generally the easiest,and cleanest problems. These are the kinds of bugs that you can solve in, oh, 2 or 3 hours. It might take a day or two to code the fix, test it, and return the module to production depending on the shop. On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 07:06:57, yubin@mail.dcac.com (yubin) wrote: > Hello List: > > Now we are converting platform from MVS to OS/390 for reason of Y2K, > during the transfer of an application, we have met a curious problem which > I will describe all the details below. > The difference of the configuration between old platform and new platform > is: > MVS V4R3 ------- OS/390 V1R3 > CICS V2R1M2 ------- CICS V4R1 > IMS V4R3 ------- IMS V6R1 WITH DBCTL > COBOL VS ------- LE 370 > > The application we have transfered inter-platform has run several years on > old platform without any problem, but now the same abend will be arised > every day after we have transfered the application to OS/390 & new version > IMS, CICS, LE 370... > > The message documented in CICS log is attached below: > > +DFHAP0001 ZCICS34 An abend (code 0C1/AKEA) has occurred at offset > X'FFFFFFFF' in module SC630TPG. > +DFHME0116 ZCICS34 > (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message DFHAP0001 is > PIDS/565501800 LVLS/410 MS/DFHAP0001 RIDS/DFHSRP PTFS/UN94911 > AB/S00C1 AB/UAKEA RIDS/SC630TPG ADRS/FFFFFFFF > +DFHDU0201 ZCICS34 ABOUT TO TAKE SDUMP. DUMPCODE: AP0001 , DUMPID: 1/0318 > +DFHDU0202 ZCICS34 SDUMPX COMPLETE. SDUMPX RETURN CODE X'00' > +CEE1000S LE/370 INTERNAL ABEND. ABCODE = 4087 REASON = 00000008 > IEA794I SVC DUMP HAS CAPTURED: > DUMPID=081 REQUESTED BY JOB (ZCICS34 ) > DUMP TITLE=CICS DUMP: SYSTEM=ZCICS34 CODE=AP0001 ID=1/0318 > > I think maybe CICS need some resources not enough.Has anyone encountered > the same case before, please give me a help! > > Thanks in advances cory hamasaki http://www.kiyoinc.com/current.html Consider this to be fair warning. There will be serious Y2K problems. 

And another one --

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Subject: -bks-, WRP120 Status, LEDs, Was: 8 BYTE Binary Date: 1999/09/27 Author: cory hamasaki Posting History

Again -bks-, this is *not* a big deal. It's just odd that we have 95 days to run and there are all these clock, GMT, Local Date conversion discussions among the mainframers. Is it a coincidence? Are they doing it to tease us. Do banks really "Get it" or are they faking it? On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 22:47:52, etech@DELTANET.COM (Eric Chevalier) wrote: > At 11:13 AM 9/25/99 -0800, Bill Becker wrote: > > >Howard, you need to ALGEBRAICALLY (That's an ADD, not Add > >Logical) add the field CVTLDTO (Local Date/Time Offset) > >prior to passing the STCKCONV the clock value. > It's more complicated than that, I think. The TOD clock is a 64-bit > UNSIGNED binary value; CVTLDTO is (implied to be) a 64-bit SIGNED binary > value. Since there are no 64-bit fixed-point arithmetic instructions on > the S390 (at least not yet), Howard's going to need more than a single > instruction to properly adjust the raw TOD clock value by CVTLDTO. > > > ====================================================================== == > Eric Chevalier etech@deltanet.com > http://users.deltanet.com/~etech/ > ====================================================================== == 95 days, oh well. Kosky Knows Best. Kosky good. We will obey Kosky. cory hamasaki http://www.kiyoinc.com/current.html I'm sick of putting resistors and LEDs in bags. Sick of it, I tell you. WRP 120 will be mailed next Monday, it will have 10 pages on LEDs, battery power, and will include resistors, LEDs (including a bright white LED), a chart of resistor values, several tips on lighting. I won't put the entire WRP 120 on the web. It's too big. I will upload the essential info though. 

-- Gregg (g.abbott@starting-point.com), September 29, 1999.