Hi all,

I have been reading a bunch of failure reports on this and other boards lately. We have a great amount of people cutting and pasting relevant info to y2k. Their work is greatly appreciated by me and others I am sure.

The thing I am wondering about is...

Are we really seeing more failures then usual...?

Are we more focused on failures or simply more aware of them so that we are "thinking" we see an increase or are we seeing a "real" increase in failures. Are their "any" kind of metrics out there reagarding this..?

DWGI should realize the interconnectedness of everything when they see what's happening in Taiwan. Chip production is supposedly 0 over their right now. Just as they were recovering from the poweroutage. Does anyone know the status of ASUS boards..??? I am aware that those are made in Taiwan as well. Are their plants open...? Is all of Taiwan down...?

Are we seeing a real stock market downturn or will the "bargain" hunters inflate prices again? Here at work people are downright giddy and excited that the stock market is going down. Cause for them it's a "GREAT" time to buy more stock.

Anyway... Maybe I should have started different threads but I am just thinking out loud. Thanks for giving me the time to ramble on...

-- STFrancis (STFrancis@heaven.com), September 24, 1999

Answers

Of course we will have more Y2K problems as we roll into the 4th quarter of this year. Most failures on this board that are being talked about are everyday problems and not specifically Y2K related.

I just think more people are just getting hyper sensitive on things. If they see someone with a register problem in the supermarket its now a Y2K problem. Before nobody ever gave a second thought to it.

-- MrWayCool (moreawareness@doesntmeanincrease.com), September 24, 1999.

hard to ignore storm-clouds.

-- i, stayin in the ark>>jesus. (dogs@zianet.com), September 24, 1999.

Lessons to learn.

Suspect the newsmedia is paying more attention now. Perhaps everyone is.

Or not.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), September 24, 1999.

"Have we seen a "real" increase in failures or are we just more focused on them..?"

Not an either/or. We have seen an increase of failures AND we are more focused on them AND we ain't seen nothing yet. Expect a bell curve peaking on 3 Jan 00. First workday of 00. Might be the rollover if the utilities aren't as good as the spin.

By the end of March, the last "spinning" enterprises planning to fix on failure collapse and can't get up.

Failures you see now are often evidence of effort (a good thing).

-- ng (cantprovideemail@none.com), September 24, 1999.

ST.,

Good post. Remember as the 98 days unfold, Perception IS Reality. Stay clear of the herd, they will trample you. I plan to be at the back end of the Costco parking lot on a few Saturday mornings in late December doing human nature research, along with my video camera (for submission to Video TV shows). Got Ammo??

-- ripley (believe it or not@ubready.com), September 24, 1999.

Ripley,

:-) Gawd thats funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What an image, ----are you drinking a starbucks!

-- David Butts (dciinc@aol.com), September 24, 1999.

When I see listed many failures all over the map from newly implemented hardware and software (upgrades for Y2K) my interest is engaged. Probably because around here NW Washington, 99% of failures reported (at least from my ad hoc research) is from new systems and software. It just mystifies me that the systems aren't more thoroughly tested (well, maybe not with the history noted on this board). I guess all those 'lab environment' tests aren't as great as they think they are. Just my .02 worth

-- Sammie Davis (sammie0nospam@hotmail.com), September 24, 1999.

Good thread. I was wondering the same thing. In the past two weeks I have experienced: Petsmart cash registered were ringing up the wrong prices on random items. The manager was out wringing his hands trying to calm down the customers, me included, because if we didn't catch the mistake at the time they rang it up, we had to wait in line AGAIN and get an exchange/refund and people were not being real polite to each other. My GTE phone service has been cutting me off in the middle of a phone conversation. Just suddenly get dead air. They admitted they were working on their Y2K stuff (I thought they were "ready".) Then yesterday in Sam's the lights just went off in the entire store and we all had to wait till the generators kicked in and the vapor lights came on.

For me personally, it seems like quite a lot of probs.

-- LindaO (LindaO@hotmail.com), September 24, 1999.

David B.

Hell NO, I'm not drinking a/at Starbucks, I was born this way!!!!!!!!! I'll be the guy in the old beat up lookin Merc station wagon with the faded woodgrain on the side, sippin a drink on top of the roof rack as the SUV bumper car games begin at the crack of Sat a.m. and might try a casual walk thru the floor(no cart) watching and listening to all the yuppy whiners saying how nobody told them about (problems) with JIT deliveries. Should be a fun time(for me that is). Go on, say it, I'm a sick lunatic! Thank You. Fur' sure I won't do the candy aisle, it could cost you your life. HAHAHAHAH. Thank God for this forum or I'd be the next idiot you'd see (goin' postal)on CNN getting hauled away. OOPS, I said the G word.

-- ripley (believeitornot@ubready.now), September 24, 1999.

STFrancis, we've been focused on failures like hawks on a squirrel for as long as I've been here. Believe me, the failures of the past weren't missed, and we see more now, that's because we're in full implementation phase of remediations.

-- Chris (#$%^&@pond.com), September 24, 1999.

Actually ripley, I can relate quite well. We used to camp with a group of 4 other couples. We all had boats and motorhomes. We used to get a great spot right, across a small cove, next to the boat ramp at a busy lake each year for the Labor Day weekend and would always spend the last day with our lawn chairs facing the ramp, binoculars in hand, watching people 'attempting' to back down the ramp and load their boats to leave. We saw it all. The onset of divorce, wife beatings, husband stabbings. One guy didn't 'hook up' and his boat rolled off the trailer, hitting the ramp, one woman backed into the lake right up to her window and I'll never forget the sound of forgetting to trim the motor up, as it bounces along the concrete all the way up the ramp (that pea-brain had a great sound system!). We would all sit there with tears rolling down our faces, sipping cool ones and slapping our knees. JQP is sooo entertaining!

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), September 24, 1999.