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U.N. EMPHASIZES GLOBALIZATION OVER NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY September 21, 1999

The Washington Times reported: "Leaders of the United Nations warned at

yesterday's opening of the U.N. General Assembly that national borders will no longer be a deterrent to justified humanitarian intervention. Traditional considerations of national sovereignty will no longer be taken into account, Kofi Annan, secretary-general of the U.N., told the opening session of the 188-member world body. Governments must not allow divisions within the Security Council to derail legitimate intervention in places such as Rwanda and Kosovo, he said. 'If states bent on criminal behavior know that frontiers are not an absolute defense, if they know that the Security Council will take action to halt crimes against humanity, then they will not embark on such a course of action in expectations of sovereign impunity,' he said. 'Massive and systematic violations of human rights -- wherever they may take place -- should not be allowed to stand.' Traditional talk of human rights, globalization and conflict resolution took on new immediacy against the backdrop of civilian atrocities in Kosovo and in East Timor, where U.N. troops, mostly Australian, began arriving yesterday..."

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And that's it. Sovereignty is to be no more. And it sounds so reasonable couched in terms of protecting people from their own governments. Who can deny that there are evil governments in the world today? But keep in mind the sort of people who are advocating this one world policy. They had no problem with Soviet gulags or Stalin's man made famine. They cry for free speech and rights here in the US but political crimes and Chinese demonstrators crushed by tanks are insignificant. So if they replace the current governments with one more to their liking, of what caliber will their puppets be? They are the same people who feel that rich capitalist countries like the US "exploited" poorer nations and that their wealth should be redistributed to those poor countries. It doesn't matter that our economic model of allowing you to reap the rewards of most of your labors made this country the land of opportunity and that is why we catapulted to the top of the economic world. We are to be punished for our success. They are the same people who advocate teaching their ideology and values to your children no matter what you believe your children should be taught. After all, what do you know? You're only their parents. And they won't be open about it. They will hide their curriculum in misleading course titles. And should you object you are categorized as backward and reactionary. This same group of world saviors believes in a world court that US citizens should be subject to without any of the protections guaranteed by the Constitution. Or that US citizens should pay taxes to the UN for Internet connectivity or green house gasses (even though global warming remains a theory at this time).

We know how those pushing the "One World Government" think. We've seen examples from those of them that have influence here in the US. When a publicity stunt with live ammo goes south in Waco and the end result is 80 men women and children gassed and burned to death, it's not a big deal. No need for alarm. They were independent minded Christians who were obsessed with self-reliance. Tell the public what they need to hear to sooth their fears over this event. They don't understand the way of the world like we do. Besides, the Davidians were dangerous. It was an emergency. We had to act for the greater good.

And those of you who "hoard" supplies because you lack faith in the wisdom of the Liberals running the country, you must be ridiculed before any disruptions so as not to alarm the populace, and demonized in case of problems in order to justify the confiscation of your supplies. After all, we don't have the foresight to make preparations, but we are much better equipped to decide who should benefit from those preparations. Do your own thing. So long as it's our thing.

Don't be fooled by spin. There are no black helicopters or concentration camps. Those are just rumors spread among the less articulate of us to make those who are alarmed about the loss of our countries sovereignty look foolish. Try to discuss the implications of being bound by treaty to a World Court, and they will point at you and say, "He is one of those nuts who thinks that UN troops are going to invade in Black Helicopters". I have news for you. Look at the composition of the majority of forces on peace keeping around the world. We ARE the UN troops.

Watch six and keep your...



-- eyes_open (best@wishes.net), September 22, 1999

Answers

Maybe they'll start with China...AS IF!

-- Spidey (in@jam.rain), September 22, 1999.

eyes_open --- "We ARE the UN troops." Very, very true. And far from being a comfort, it is the worst possible result since it puts the official stamp on America's own surrender of her liberty to the "UN".

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), September 22, 1999.

"Massive and systematic violations of human rights -- wherever they may take place -- should not be allowed to stand."

The U.N. has always been condemning of the U.S. prison system. Is the part of that quote-- wherever they may take place-- meant for us?

I heard something on Drudge over the weekend about one of Clintons top aides being an out of the closet NWO guy.

Anybody else here think Drudge is a regular?

-- Maisy's color game (my@lilgirl.loves), September 22, 1999.


That would be long-time Clinton chum Strobe Talbot Maisy. He said in 1992 that we need to dissolve the Sovereign Borders that divide the world so that a Nation-States system can be instituted.

Strobe Talbot is now a Chief member of the Clinton Cabinet. The orchestrations and clever-speak for American-public consumption sounds innocuous enough...until you logically see what their ultimate aims are: the destruction of our National Sovereignty. Kofi Anon has simply boldy stated what Bill Clinton has been subtely hinting about in speeches since '93 about his "Third way". What the UN Secretary General outlined IS the Third Way Clinton and Talbot have planned for since the beginning.

NWO paranoia? Hardly. Watch what they do and you will see (if you have eyes to see) how the cards are being played. Watch CNN and you will accompany the zombied masses to the grave.

Banks, gun control, and tighter, restrictive laws are all nooses being slowly lowered over our necks by those that have evil ambitions that far exceed even the wildest conspiratorial imagination.

What they have Americans convinced is that the noose they are placing on our necks, is really a necklace. We like it, it's pretty and are told it will keep us safe. We are simply willfully ignoring the rope attached at the end because we are dazzled by how beautiful it sounds and looks.

And we buy it daily - hook, line and sinker.

The 200 year experiment in a Represenative Republic has ended. It has failed exactly how the Founders warned us it would if we were not vigillant. America is over. The Constitution is toilet paper. Our laws are applied only to the citizenry. We have a tyranny that now has no cumpunction (sp?) to using hardened military forces against a separatist church group. In today's political climate, the First Settlers and POuritans would have been gassed, shot and burned to death. How far we have fallen.

And the only thing left standing in the way of abject dominance is guns in the hands of average citizens. They're working out that kink in Nation-State plans now.

Those forecasted pockets of resistance will be dealt with soon enough.

A trigger event will herald the demise of this nation, and the emergence of a world-view vision as Strobe Talbot and his ilk have silently orchestrated since the 60's.

2/3 of Americans will be lost in this process. The rest to slavery.

Those that have eyes to see and ears to hear, we live in historic- troubling-dangerous times, but nothing that hasn't been warned about.

We've just plugged-up our ears.

And now we are about to reap the rewards we have sown as a nation.

So don't act surprised when it happens. We have it coming.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), September 22, 1999.


And, in my mind the question arises, will we truly wish to change this government with the likes of those who voted for Mr. Clinton and his Party line ( twice, in fact) and with a majority made of those who drive one block to a 7-11 to buy a pack of Marlboros and with the majority made of those who choose to "educate" their children in the hallowed (now lethal) halls of government cannon fodder mills?!!! Will these be the revolutionaries of the future? I shudder at the thought.

-- Barb (awaltrip@telepath.com), September 22, 1999.


Government is organized crime. Makes no difference whether it is one- world NWO/UN or your local city council, or anything in between.

-- Count Vronsky (vronsky@anna.com), September 22, 1999.

Invar: just to clarify, are you saying the UN is going to kill of 2/3 of all Americans and ship the rest into slavery?

-- J (j@j.j), September 22, 1999.

J,

1/3 die by the sword (or warfare/conflict), 1/3 by pestilence and famine (as a result of said conflict and chaos) and a remnant (1/3) taken into captivity (slavery).

Who actually does the killing of the first third I do not know. Perhaps we rend ourselves apart and the UN mops up the rest? Pehaps.

Perhaps it's a combination of Y2K related disasters that leads to armed chaos and the settling of foreign troops on our soil to bring order to those remaining? Plausible.

Perhaps civil war that leads our president to just hand over the reins of what is left to a global governing body created out of the millenial Y2K crisis? Noting this President's treason; probable.

Who knows? I can only speculate on the possible scenarios. Only God does for sure. The only thing I am positive of is 2/3 of our nation's people are wiped-out, and the remaining would wish to be like the previous 2/3; dead.

And we will have brought it on ourselves.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), September 22, 1999.


INVAR--Couldn't agree with you more. We the people have allowed this once great nation to stumble headlong into the filth and rot we find it in today. Our great grandfathers did nothing when the Feds hijacked the monetary system at the turn of the century...our grandfathers did nothing when FDR raped the constitution in the '30s...our fathers did nothing when God was told he was no longer welcome in our schools in the '60s...and few of our generation did anything when the Supreme Court said it was OK to murder the defenseless in the'70s....How can anyone in their right mind be dismayed at the condition of our country today, and the pathetic excuse for a man that holds the land's highest office? We have become the prodigal son, having wasted this wonderful inheritance (our country) for fast, sensuous living. We have become tenders of pigs!

There is yet some hope though. My wife and I, along with many like minded folks have pulled our children from the public school system; teaching them at home...instilling in them our values, in hopes that one day, if America should survive this calamity, a God-fearing and God-loving generation will arise and rebuild this country again.

-- TM (mercier7@pdnt.com), September 22, 1999.


For the Christian set, we've not yet seen the trigger conditions for Bible prophecies regarding the "Great Tribulation" (Think the middle of Matthew 24, and sprinked mentions of Satan's imprisonment in Revelation...) and everyone's fave religious term, Armageddon. But, no matter how you slice it and what faith you profess, most every religion seems to think that some sort of end is coming at some point. Whether that end is an end of the entire way of life that exists now (Some Bible translations mention a "system of things" which would be the world as we all know it in terms of how everything works and gets done), the end of humanity's dominance on this planet, the end of Earth's physical existence, remains to be experienced.

The Infomagic-style devolutionary spiral is part of prophecy for a lot of belief structures. (Christanity in particular exhibits strong tendencies toward a total collapse of the "system of things". Check Jesus' response to the Apostole's query regarding the sign of his return and the end of the "system of things" as some Bible translations phrase it in the Gospels.) If any or all of these are reasonably close to the mark, a casual look around at the reality of life as it is now indicates that the end of an era is coming and coming fast. This whole setup the collective humanity has created for itself has exceeded its sustain level by foolishly high margins and the wind's blowing against the house of cards with increasing force.

Preps are pretty much irrelevant if the whole situation becomes a divinely controlled event intended to fulfil some prophecies. It might be wise for everyone to reconcile themselves and their life courses to their chosen god(s). To each his/her/its own regarding what to do and how, but if you profess a faith, now might be your closing opportunity to complete your spiritual preparations...

He notices too much, that darned...

-- OddOne (mocklamer_1999@yahoo.com), September 22, 1999.



Begin quote. _________________ The 200 year experiment in a Represenative Republic has ended. It has failed exactly how the Founders warned us it would if we were not vigillant. America is over. The Constitution is toilet paper. Our laws are applied only to the citizenry. We have a tyranny that now has no cumpunction (sp?) to using hardened military forces against a separatist church group. In today's political climate, the First Settlers and POuritans would have been gassed, shot and burned to death. How far we have fallen.

And the only thing left standing in the way of abject dominance is guns in the hands of average citizens. They're working out that kink in Nation-State plans now.

Those forecasted pockets of resistance will be dealt with soon enough ___________________________ End quote.

I think that you underestimate the resolve and ability of armed men fighting on their homeland for their posterity. I also think that you discount the possibility that U.S. armed forces will go AWOL, bringing their weapons with them, to repell and invasion of blue hats.

A large portion of the population may well die, but my guess (and my fervent hope) is that in the end, an American flag (with no border) will fly over the united States and that the treasonous members of its current government will have died naturally or been executed, leaving a much smaller and much less corrupt government in its wake.

If the UN invades the united States, then the states had better unite to defend against the invasion. And if any elected official should suggest or facilitate the invasion by the UN, then he has immediately earned a summary execution. My guess is that if such a UN invasion occurs, it will be because the boss at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue or her husband wants it. My hope is that if that occurs, a Tomcat with a small tactical nuke will obliterate their residence with them in it.

George

-- George Valentine (GeorgeValentine@usa.net), September 23, 1999.


this is what i been tryin to say,something evil in wind BIGGER than y2k.

-- well i,ll be! (dogs@zianet.com), September 23, 1999.

Well put, George.

Yet they have consistently exibited overconfidence, and while are not likely to win, they may well try. Y2k may force their hand.

And it is, after all, THE brass ring they're after. History is a bloody trail of such doomed bids for power.

Liberty

-- Liberty (liberty@theready.now), September 23, 1999.


While I appreciate your thoughts George, a few reasons why I think your optimism may prove incorrect in the final analysis:

>>"I think that you underestimate the resolve and ability of armed men fighting on their homeland for their posterity."<<

No I do not. These people in this generation are hardly the character of the men that served in our military prior to Clinton, not to mention the Social Experimental playground that the Socialists have intentionally created within our armed forces. Morale is at a loss. Our forces are spread thin and placed under UN command, and the resolve is at the behest of political indecisiveness for expedient personal gain.

>>"I also think that you discount the possibility that U.S. armed forces will go AWOL, bringing their weapons with them, to repell and invasion of blue hats."<<

Perhaps a few may go AWOL, but as a former commander of a Naval Reserve told me five years ago, "In five years, the forced retirements and exodus we are seeing now will culminate in a puppet military used for nothing more than a kings guard. We will then be ripe for a takeover." I do not see an invasion of blue hats ala Normandy, what I see is an invitation, like a Trojan Horse. Besides, according to scripture, we won't even be able to assemble a resistance in time to avoid our conflagration. Part of that is the enemy within our midst that will spring upon us like a ravenous wolf at the fooling of the sheep. That wolf is our present government, it's fangs already visible to those that have eyes to see.

>>"If the UN invades the united States, then the states had better unite to defend against the invasion."<<

Will never happen. First it will be an invitation, not an invasion. Second, we are so divided as a nation, and so polarized...the political use of scapegoating will engender no trust to any group other than the Feds. The Patriot movement will be crushed tootsweet by demouguogery and annihilation, and those left that hold the light of freedom within their breast will go into hiding.

>>"And if any elected official should suggest or facilitate the invasion by the UN, then he has immediately earned a summary execution."<<

IMHO Clintons have already earned that sentence for selling out our nation's security for campaign dollars. But because of the strong delusion sent upon us as a nation, and our turning aside of vigilance and embracement of evil and greed, we as a nation instead will be summarily executed.

>>>"My guess is that if such a UN invasion occurs, it will be because the boss at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue or her husband wants it."<<

I agree with you here. It is their plan and perceived destiny. But as I said, it won't be an invasion, but an invitation. Case-in-point, you hear no outrage over Red Communist Chineese Generals observing and participating in Marine maneuvers do you? They were "invited", and everyone's fine with it. Including the stifled military brass who pursue career over duty.

>>" My hope is that if that occurs, a Tomcat with a small tactical nuke will obliterate their residence with them in it. "<<<

That's a hope, but instead be on the lookout for a Chechnyan suitcase nuke or a TaepDong II ICBM to obliterate our residences with US in them.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), September 23, 1999.


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