Apparently Europe did not go unscathed in the 9999 problem.

See:

http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,80980,00.html

Regards,

-- Uncle Bob (UNCLB0B@Y2KOK.ORG), September 10, 1999

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Would the doomers please make up their minds? Was 990909 a Y2K- related date or not? I mean, until you can find some evidence that something bad happened, the position has been that it wasn't related - so now that some people experienced a problem - for one day - it's related?

Puzzled Regards,
Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), September 10, 1999.

Dear Andy, quite a few failure, none of which will make the headlines, have nonetheless been squeaking through. Doomers do not make up their minds, they don't have to. They understand what is happening. Why? Because lying is so transparent, so obvious, so shallow, and so immediate. Good luck to you,

Anon

-- anon (so@long.com), September 10, 1999.

http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,80980,00.html

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Germans fluff their date with destiny

Jill Treanor and John Cassy

Friday September 10, 1999

Technical problems at the German futures and options exchange yesterday fuelled fears in City dealing rooms that the markets could face crisis as a result of the millennium computer bug.

The computer glitches, which prevented some firms from trading and running the risk of potential losses, took place yesterday - numerically written 9.9.99. Market regulators and computer experts had seen yesterday, while not quite a dry run for the turn of the year, as a test for systems ahead of the real millennium bug.

Yesterday was significant because the date - 9.9.99 - was used in old computer conventions to indiciate to programs that they should stop performing certain tasks.

Any hiccups which emerge after yesterday's trading will send severe warnings to the markets about the potential for meltdown in trading early in the new year if computers fail to recognise the last two digits of the year 2000.

Dealers fear that if computers stop working they will not be able to trade, which might leave them exposed to enormous losses.

The rumours of problems were not confined to the German exchange. The internal message board at one leading investment bank in London warned of problems with price information received from Simex, the Singapore futures exchange. The message, posted as a warning by the bank's traders in Singapore, said that the problems were caused by 9/9/99 glitches.

The Eurex exchange in Frankfurt insisted that problems incurred by its clients first thing yesterday morning were not connected to the 9/9/99 computer problem. However, brokers claimed that in response to their initial inquiries, the exchange had blamed the date problem.

Some users of the electronic German exchange had been forced to re- start their computers yesterday because they had stalled overnight. A spokesman for Eurex said: "The problems which occurred were not related to Y2K or the 9/9/99 problem."

Eurex said the problem, quickly resolved, was caused by the failure of some computers to receive a signal, which could have happened on any day of the week.

One source in London insisted yesterday: "Eurex admitted to members early on that it was having 9/9/99 problems."

The City regulator, the Finanial Services Authority, had asked the firms it regulates to alert it to any problems encountered, but had not been told of any.

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-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), September 10, 1999.

Andy Ray...

I don't recall stating in my post that 9999 was related to Y2K. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, I believe I said "Apparently Europe did not go unscathed in the 9999 problem".

And, it is written in English.

Confused by Andy Ray...

-- Uncle Bob (UNCLB0B@Y2KOK.ORG), September 10, 1999.

I'm not a doomer but everyone (doomer or pollie) knows that the two are not related except that they are both computer problems.

However, it has the effect of awakening the average man the tangible effects of bad programming techniques.

A little less hubris will do well for you.

-- Sandwich (anon@anon.com), September 10, 1999.

Excuse me but Im confused.

Does anyone (polly or doomster) believe that hardware, software, machinery, etc. dont fail everyday for reasons that have nothing to do with Y2K? Hard drives fail and computers crash every day. The question is how does it affect you. The idea that somehow every failure is Y2K related or conversely when 1/1/2000 comes and goes (or what ever other mystic date you choose) that everything will work perfectly for ever and ever is more than ludicrous.

The way I read this board is that everything (power outage, computer problem, whatever) is a portent of things to come, except when it isnt.

To say there wont be any problems next year is probably over optimistic, however you define bump in the road. The question is will there be enough problems or will any specific problem be so widespread as to affect a significant part of the population. If you buy dog food at the store down the street and it goes out of business but another store two blocks down the street stays open is that a problem? Maybe for the people who went out of business but your dog wont starve.

The doomsters on this board have been predicting and proclaiming widespread problems. If it doesnt happen they will be wrong. I dont think that when Y2K comes and goes and all the lights stay on, water comes out the tap, cars run, etc that youll be able to claim a vast cover up. Thats like saying all of North America is without power today but you didnt notice it because of a government cover up.

If an ice storm ( a real one not a Y2K analogy) hits an area of the country hard and people are out of power it will have nothing to do with Y2K but the people will still be out of power. But it will have nothing to do with Y2K.

-- The Engineer (The Engineer@tech.com), September 10, 1999.

And another thing... Anyone who posts a response in green crayon must need help from his mom or another adult.

-- Uncle Bob (UNCLB0B@Y2KOK.ORG), September 10, 1999.

Y2K - Its the Year 2000, Stupid


(Sorry that I have to keep posting this all over the damn place, but apparently, dumbass pollies like Andy Ray have to have it explained mucho times before it will sink in. If ever.)

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), September 10, 1999.

Apparently the Chinese stock market shut down because of 9999 problems also.

-- a (a@a.a), September 10, 1999.

Confused by Andy Ray...Confused by Andy Ray...Confused by Andy Ray...

Confused by Andy Ray...Confused by Andy Ray...Confused by Andy Ray...

Confused by Andy Ray...Confused by Andy Ray...Confused by Andy Ray...

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-- no talking please (breadlines@soupkitchen.gov), September 10, 1999.

no talking, LOL!!

-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), September 11, 1999.