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Did anyone withdraw from the tournament, my position raised in every game in 1 from one day to the other?!

Geeesh, fuck, MARP MUST STAY ALIVE!

What must a server be able to do to maintain MARP? let me know

-- rough (adamsky@gmx.ch), August 30, 1999

Answers

Yeah, mine moved up too, i was a person at least above 5th before, i can't remember who... maybe a persual of the stats pages that aren't updated frequently will do the trick.

-- Chad (churritz@cts.com), August 30, 1999.

It was BeeJay. He zeroed out all his scores, i think he was second or third while doing this.

-- Chad (churritz@cts.com), August 30, 1999.

Yes, it was BeeJay. For the record, he was running an extremely close 2nd place trailing by a mere 2 points. I'm very sorry to see him go as he is one of MARP's top players and the tourney will be a bit less in stature because of his departure. It was a great run, BeeJay, and I hope sometime in the future you can be back to join us. You'll always be the Bombjack King!

BTW, rough, the "f-word" is kinda frowned on when posting on the message boards. ;)

JoustGod

-- JoustGod (pinballwiz1@msn.com), August 30, 1999.


Why'd Beejay leave? Was it because of the surge of inferior recordings as of late, the possibilty that MARP may close or something completely different...

'Tis a shame, he is a great competitor.. one of MARP's finest.

-- JSW (usagi@dingoblue.net.au), August 31, 1999.


He's obviously back in the tournament on position 2!

I am also wondering about Gameboy's score of 347 instead of the 247 his position would fit to, small cgi error?!

-- rough (rough@c64.rulez.org), September 01, 1999.



> I am also wondering about Gameboy's score of 347 instead of the 247 his position would fit to, small cgi error?!

Not really - more of a joke. Gameboy gets 10 bonus points for each game, but it doesn't affect his position in the table. I was playing his quiz game one night, and he was giving me bonus points all over the place, so I've given him a few back in exchange. There's corruption wherever you look, right?

But if you want to know his real score, just take 120 off the number displayed.

Chris.

-- Zwaxy (zwaxy@mail.com), September 01, 1999.


So I'm more close to him than I thought, great and hell, fuck, yeah even more greater: MARP wont shut down, but YOU read it already anyway.

:)

-- rough (rough@c64.rulez.org), September 01, 1999.


Great to see confirmation that we have indeed attracted the little kiddie warez mentality crowd to MARP...nice going, rough. Use all the little 4-letter words that little boys shout when they have nothing else to contribute on your own time in your own home all you want. But show some maturity when you make posts in a public forum. You don't go around your hometown yelling these kinds of statements out loud, do you? If so, I'm sure it's being met with the same kinds of shaking heads of those around you.

Nobody's going to censor your words or emotions...we were hoping you were grown up enough to do that on your own.

JoustGod

-- JoustGod (pinballwiz1@msn.com), September 01, 1999.


I see no big difference as you, Joust God, between words like "milk", "car" or "fuck" (the 4-letter-word-like-you-say), there are no BAD words as you are trying to tell me and I dont need to prove anyone at last you how mature I am or not. Know what, YOUR behaviour is childish, that's the point, you've got a problem with expressions but that is not my problem. I will write what I want and you can make small mice big as an elephant if you like you just will make me smile here behind my computer how narrow-minded someone can be.

And about "warez-mentality", I know what you mean and this is something completely different than you are trying to say.

And if, like your words say, being "mature" means to censor yourself..then good night! Actually being mature means when you pass the age of 18/21. To me it would mean to go my own path, to be honest and to take a stand. But actually it doesnt because I dont divide between mature/childhood, life is one long flow to me and I see no reason to fell superior to others just because they have smaller age than me. (Know what I mean? Not? Nevermind!)

And to calm you down: NO, I wont use the word fuck in every single post from me for nothing.

-- rough (rough@c64.rulez.org), September 01, 1999.


I believe the assertion JoustGod was trying to impart was that a significant proportion of MARP consider the f-word an unacceptable use of the vernacular. While it is your choice whether or not you choose to side with this assertion, it is considered good etiquette to observe the same or similar standards as the majority when in a public forum. You may like to argue this is prudish and restrictive when in reality it is a requirement of a civilised society. Without such implied moral standards society would quickly regress to a more primitive "tribal warfare" mentality - just look at how quickly the hunted becomes the hunter in moral-less struggles of power such as the former Yugoslav states have most recently demonstrated.

Now we could get into a long involved philosophical discussion on this subject but I think we'd all sooner just play some more MAME games.

In conclusion, I would like to second JoustGod's polite request that you refrain your use of the f-word vernacular in this forum.

BeeJay.

-- BeeJay (bjohnstone@cardinal.co.nz), September 01, 1999.



Hahaha, "please",be so "polite" not to waste my time anymore with your "world-view" which yellow press and mainstream media tells you to think and to let you learn one thing in your work - turn out - sleep - work - turn out etc life: It would be a great win for me and our planet earth if we had a "uncivilised" society instead the total fuck of the USA which is the most terrorist country in the world!! Yeah,I know, you think it's all for the matter of "freedom" and I know any further discussion on this topic is useless with people whose main interest are computer games.

-- rough (rough@c64.rulez.org), September 02, 1999.

OK, rough, you've now perpetuated your legend as an anti-social, counterculture wannabe. Why do I say wannabe? Because the real deal would come up with solutions and alternatives instead of the type of vague whining and griping that seems to be the main thrust of your posts.

Let me address some of the issues you have brought up since you're so presumptious as to believe you can identify my character traits. In case you're wondering, all of the comments in quotation marks are directly lifted from your posts.

First the comment from you:

"I dont need to prove anyone at last you how mature I am or not. Know what, YOUR behaviour is childish, that's the point, you've got a problem with expressions but that is not my problem."

Since when did I or anyone ask you to prove your maturity? And I've got a problem with expressions? I don't think so. The language I use in my own enviroment is vastly cruder than the language I use in a public forum like this. The difference here between us is that I have the common sense to pare down my language in a public forum so as to not be viewed as a ranting child.

Comment #2 (and this is one of the funniest):

"Actually being mature means when you pass the age of 18/21."

You're kidding, right? So, in your world, a mere number automatically graduates you into the real, adult world? Hmmm, interesting theory but it doesn't hold water and when you get older you'll find this to be true. There are an incredible amount of "adults" that have all the social skills development of an 8 year-old child. And I'm not referring to those with mental disabilities.

#3...

"To me it would mean to go my own path, to be honest and to take a stand. But actually it doesnt because I dont divide between mature/childhood, life is one long flow to me and I see no reason to fell superior to others just because they have smaller age than me. (Know what I mean? Not? Nevermind!)"

Ah, the presumptious nature surfaces here. The approach of going on your own path, being honest and taking a stand is fine and I applaud you for that kind of thinking. It is needed in a world that is increasingly being homogenized by none other than the very medium that we are using right now! Ironic, isn't it? The commentary that you felt were needed in brackets at the end were you assuming(I presume ;)) that I didn't have a clue as to what you were getting at...let me break down the word "assume" for you. It often makes an "ass" out of "u" and has "me" shaking my head in amazement.

and on to #4...

"And to calm you down: NO, I wont use the word fuck in every single post from me for nothing."

First off, why do you assume that I'm not calm? I'm not the one here who's ardently defending the use of the word "fuck"...you calm down. I could really care less what becomes of you after all is said and done. As a matter of fact, I find you amusing because of your pseudo- intellectual stance on issues that you address. You can rant...well, anyone can do that...but you don't seem to offer much in the way of solutions. Very typical of the standard pseudo-intellectual. And your overuse of the word "fuck" (that's 4 out of 5 posts in this thread) simply does not acheive anything beyond watering down its impact. If you truly feel the need to use this kind of language to express yourself, then don't use this word every time you feel some kind of negative emotion. It only serves to conjure up the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome in which the townspeople (MARP community in this case) begin to ignore the crier after hearing "wolf" (or in this case "fuck") for the umpteenth time.

Your responses to BeeJay seem to beg a rebuttal or two also:

"Hahaha, "please",be so "polite" not to waste my time anymore with your "world-view" which yellow press and mainstream media tells you to think and to let you learn one thing in your work - turn out - sleep - work - turn out etc life"

So, I see you're able to use key left-wing expressions such as "yellow paper". No, for most of us the mainstream media doesn't necessarily dictate how we live our lives. Most of us do what we have to do to get along in life as far as making ends meet. You might be surprised to find out, however, that most of us also have a lot more going on in our lives than the work-turn out-sleep cycle that you suggest and have obviously bought into through the sub-culture media.

onward...

"It would be a great win for me and our planet earth if we had a "uncivilised" society instead the total fuck of the USA which is the most terrorist country in the world!!"

A great win for you? How's that? Yet another vague comment with no substance. Maybe if you could make more than vague commentary, we could all understand your point-of-view a little better. I'm interested in hearing how the uncivilized society theory works. You obviously have a problem with the USA and that's fine...you're not alone. We in the USA are far from perfect and everyone of us realizes that, but at least we put in the effort and offer some kind of solution to make the world a better place even for people like you who openly oppose what we stand for but, ironically, will be the first in line to enjoy the fruits of our labor. In this case, I'm referring to the medium that you have chosen to use so that you can voice your opinion to the rest of the world (and there are so many outlets other than the MARP board!). If you think the USA is so vile and terroristic, why don't you really make a stand and stay off the net (the medium in which could not have developed to this extent so quickly without the USA's involvement). Then you'd truly be making a valid stand.

and the final comments from you...

"Yeah,I know, you think it's all for the matter of "freedom" and I know any further discussion on this topic is useless with people whose main interest are computer games. "

Freedom is what you make of it. You can abuse it all you want, but believe me, the moment that you no longer have it you'll be one unhappy human being longing for that so-called "freedom". If the USA's deal is so bad then perhaps you can explain to me about the hordes of people desperately trying to make their way into this country,legally or illegally. I know this makes me sound "patriotic" or whatever. I'm far from the "patriotic" type, believe it or not. But I do know a good thing when I have it so when I hear half-witted commentary from someone with no other alternatives to present to the rest of us, then it's just too tempting not to reply to.

Two points about that last comment: Since when did you present a "discussion"? You're approach borders on childish, mind-washed, cliche-using rants, not discussion. It's easy to say that if you were presenting your case in court, the judge would most likely throw the case out because of insufficient evidence. But then again, the judge is probably just another robotic, brain-washed pawn of civilized society, isn't he? So therefore, his opinion doesn't matter because it doesn't conform to your idealistic world where everybody can do exactly what they please without thought of the implications their actions can bring.

As far as the comment on us have only a main interest in computer games goes, I think I addressed that in the comments above.

Oh and in case you're still concerned on me being calm...don't worry, I never was anything but calm throughout these posts with you. I'm always calm when I'm enjoying myself. And if I don't have immediate responses to your retorts, don't kid yourself into thinking that you've "won", it's probably because I have a life outside of all this that I'm attending to.

JoustGod

-- JoustGod (pinballwiz1@msn.com), September 02, 1999.


Ya know, just this weekend I was watching some mob movie with Robert De Niro in it...

There was this scene where Pescano(sp?), a boss who's base of operations was a small grocery, was ranting about what his rivals were doing to him. His mother, who kept the books for the operations, waas chiding him about his language the whole time he was complaining and telling his brother the sort of treatment he was getting and who was doing him wrong.

When it went to a commercial break, I said "Killing people is ok, but cursing isn't?"

Funny thing though ... because he'd been so vocal about who was doing what, the feds found out everything they wanted to know about everything going on in Vegas just by bugging that store, and the guy's Type A temper threw him into a heart attack when they came to arrest him.

Aqua, who runs this church for loggers...

-- Aquatarkus (aquatarkus@digicron.com), September 02, 1999.


Obviously this is pretty important for YOU, Joust God (length of your post), but not for me. :)

Huhu, I am a child, I am so stupid, good that I have daddie Joust God to tell me his "wise" words

Like I said any discussion is unnecessary as everything is said.

Huhu, daddie, my I say the f-word ??!??!

-- ROUGH (rough@c64.rulez.org), September 04, 1999.


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