Subject:	Re: Look -bks- was: routine assembler to convert date format 0CYYDDDF to DDMMYY
Date:	1999/08/26
Author:	cory hamasaki <kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net>
	Posting History

It means several things.   On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:38:01, donjoe@example.com (Don Joe - see signature) wrote:   > On 26 Aug 1999 01:50:17 GMT, genroberts@aol.com (Genroberts) wrote: > > .... > > >>> This code is not exactly what you want but it will help. You  can use > >>> the ED  and MVS instructions to get the data into the desired format. > >>> > >>> AYTEST  TIME  DEC,ZONE=LT            NOT DETERMINE DATE AND TIME > >>> 00570002 > >>>          ST    R0,HOUR                SAVE HOUR > >>> 00580002 > >>>          ST    R1,DATED              STORE 0CYYDDDF > > .... > > >BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA > > > >(What does this mean?) > > Offhand, I'd think it means that the team will be assembling well into the new > year. >   We're at 127 days and some company's systems programmer is asking for help converting  CYYDDD to MMDDYY.  But it's not a simple date conversion that DD could write in COBOL, it's running as part of an IEF exit.   Seems to be a little late in the game.   I found the original post in the mainframe newsgroup, where the pollies have said, well, they're blase about Y2K.  Yes, some are, some aren't but Pollies don't have the technical background to see the problems.   For non mainframers or pollies, any system modifications should have been made 2 or more years ago and frozen.  You don't want to change the OS at the last minute.   Something as basic as CYY to YY windowing should not be a project at day 127.  It seems odd that this shop is converting CYY to YY and discarding the century indicator.  (IBM like tm_year, did it wrong with century indicators but that's another matter.)   While a polly might make a flippy motion with a hanky, the issue really is, this is Day 127, it was a question to a mainframe newsgroup.  Some kind of huge computer out there somewhere is at risk.   Sorry pollies, there are shops in worse shape.  Banks don't "get it". Wishing really, really hard does not make systems compliant.  Kosky single handedly sandbagged the whole country.   cory hamasaki http://www.kiyoinc.com/current.html 

-- a (a@a.a), August 28, 1999

Answers

Hmmmmmmm. Who DOES Kosky work for anyway? Is there anyone in charge? What IS the Kahuna in Chief's intent? Is he stupid or smarter than his 'subjects'? Is this a mystery to be solved or do some of us simply find such a level of neglect and blantant disregard difficult to believe at the highest levels of our government?

I suppose it boils down to trust. That's a whole new set of questions, now isn't it........

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 28, 1999.

Somehow, I don't see Koskinen's actions as "single handed." He has a LARGE critical infrastructure (and related industry/agency) Advisory Group... and a boss.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 28, 1999.

Yes, he's the maim mouthpiece for the happy face folks, but who's gonna be left standing to hold him and the rest of them accountable?

-- Sandmann (Sandmann@alasbab.com), August 28, 1999.

Sandman: Amish GI-Joes.

:)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 28, 1999.

Kosky's job was as Cory so eloquently put it: "make a flippy motion with a hanky" and make Y2K disappear from Clinton's desk, plate and "to do" list. DOE made a flippy motion with a hanky and made electric reliability disappear from under its hat. Social Security made a flippy motion with a hanky and made caring for the elderly and disabled the responsibility of States and Local governments. CIAO made a flippy motion with a hanky and made the threat to our infrastructures NOT the technology problem, but people buying cans of beans at Costco.

Its been quite an entertaining magic show. But watch out for the big POOF! as the show draws to a close. The magicians disappear behind the curtain and it will only be then that the audience finds out the exits have been sealed.

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), August 28, 1999.

Amen Linda!

I just loooooove yer wit!

Need a hanky just to keep the laugh tears from clouding the vision.

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), August 28, 1999.

Will continue...

ROFLMAO!

-- Sandmann (Sandmann@alasbab.com), August 28, 1999.

Will Continue and Linda,

Terrific replies, both of you. Right on the money.

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), August 28, 1999.

Damn, Linda, I've been enjoying your answers more than I can say wherever I've found them today. Would you go through every thread in "new answers" and post something? ROFLMAO!!

-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), August 28, 1999.

Damn... my heads about to explode. Cut it out you all.

If we didn't laugh we would all go insane.

Love you all too.

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), August 28, 1999.

Same here Linda!!!

(another Kodak moment)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 28, 1999.