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Just a thought'

As the regular GIs that post here may be getting into an ossified brain wave pattern. It might be helpful to show the DGIs that you truly do have the mental gymnastic ability to revert to a "polly for a day".

Example: I just don't see how anything could possibly happen now that all of the other milestone dates have come and gone. We might be wrong!! Everything might be ok. All those GAO reports must be wrong!

-- David Butts (dciinc@aol.com), August 25, 1999

Answers

Ok. I'll play.

We're unlikely to run out of food. After all, even if food were scarce, we could eat the tons of grain stored for cattle. It may not be appetizing, but most of that food is acceptable, albeit somehwat unclean.

-- Tim the Y2K nut (tmiley@yakko.cs.wmich.edu), August 25, 1999.


Good idea. Here goes:

I hear that the Interbank finished end-to-end testing of their interfaces to China, Russia, India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Italy, Brazil, Columbia, North and South Korea, Venezuela, Mexico, Philippines, and all the other clueless countries and guess what? There were NO errors!

I also hear that the economy is going to triple in the next few years, so buy stock now! Forget about gold - it's at its the lowest price in 30 years, and the DOW is at an all time high, so remember the saying: "Buy high - Sell low"

Food? There'll be plenty of food! Don't pay attention to those reports of the worst droughts since the Dust Bowl! Forget about buying beans - buy beanie babies - they'll be worth their weight in gold, er, stock certificates soon.

And flying is safe! The FAA has finished remediating their 1960's vintage water cooled mainframes and 1950's vintage vacuum tube radars. Everything's Y2K OK!

-- a (a@a.a), August 25, 1999.


Ok, I'm in....

"There's nothing to worry about-- nothing will happen. If there was really a problem, CNN, NBC, and CBS & ABC would be all over it.

Time would run serious stories about it, and everybody would know. after all, the president couldn't hide something as small as the monica thing from us, even though he hid it from hillary, right?

if y2k was really going to be a problem, the dow wouldn't be hitting all time highs, and dan rather or willow bay or ted koppel would have told me to really worry about y2k.

If y2k was really a problem the government would tell me to really worry about it. If at this late stage, there was a real risk, the government would make an announcement and tell us all! Just because they didn't tell us anything while they were taking 10 years to remediate social security, doesn't mean anything. Year after year, they worked on this problem and year after year, it still wasn't fixed.

sure they didn't say anything in 1989, so what sure they didn't say anything in 1990, so what? sure they didn't say anything in 1991, so what? sure they didn't say anything in 1992, so what? sure they didn't say anything in 1993, so what? sure they didn't say anything in 1994, so what? sure they didn't say anything in 1995, so what? i'm sure they'd tell me now, if there was a real problem.....right? hey kosky, what's today's story man? i'm waitin to eat it up like hotcakes!

-- Super (slfsl@yahoo.com), August 25, 1999.


BLEEP!

And flying is safe! The FAA has finished remediating their 1960's vintage water cooled mainframes and 1950's vintage vacuum tube radars. Everything's Y2K OK!

Those mainframes are not "WATER COOLED" for goodness sake! Water would short them out. They are cooled by big, hurkin airconditioners. Get your facts strait or no one will believe anything you post.

-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), August 25, 1999.


Good idea. If we run out of food, we can eat the paint chips off of the house. I hear the lead makes them taste sweet. I'll wash them down with water from the toilet bowl like my dog. For dessert...pine cones!

-- Dave (aaa@aaa.com), August 25, 1999.


20% of IT projects come in on time or early!

We're saved! Wahoo! I can still use my electric vibrator!

-- I'm (with@titude.now), August 25, 1999.


Good point on the markets folks. You know that the markets are sound 'cause those big money guys would never buy stocks at a market top!

-- Dave (aaa@aaa.com), August 25, 1999.

Cherri: You really are clueless aren't you gal? "Water would short them out." You're a riot! From c.s.y2k:

Thermal Conduction Module. Heat sink plus logic real estate. Cooled with 'chillers'.(chilled water). A plumbing nightmare. Don't know, been awhile, maybe I dreamed it. Sounds worse than CROS. Geezerspeak. Forgive me . I am addled of late. Get flaky away from home too long. It's worse than that. It's made of unusual materials, has spring loaded pistons pressing on the logic devices. The pistons carry heat away to pressurized helium. Helium transfers heat to the plate; Chilled water circulates in the plate. I have an IBM Journal of Research and Development that covers the 3081 and the TCM. -brrrr- scary. cory hamasaki

-- a (a@a.a), August 25, 1999.


I love this thread!

How about, "I have faith in technology. People who think there will be problems because of Y2k are like those religious fanatics. There's something wrong with them. Now, dear, don't talk about this anymore. I don't want you to embarrass yourself in public. I'm your spouse and I want to protect you. So, JUST SHUT UP!!!!"

Hee. Hee.

-- hee (hee@hee.hee), August 25, 1999.


Oh, this looks like fun...how about, um.... Americans are too smart to allow y2k to be a problem ...and this one from an engineer friend - it's just hype to sell more software...uh huh.

-- April (Alwzapril@home.com), August 25, 1999.


"And besides, if we can't get any clean drinking water, I can just go down to the river and get some."

(Got Giardia?)

Hee. Hee. Hee.

-- hee (hee@hee.hee), August 25, 1999.


"And, if the toilet won't flush, I'll just go pee in the woods."

(In the middle of an urban neighborhood)

LOL!

-- hee (hee@hee.hee), August 25, 1999.


"And ALL the bad Y2k News is coming from people who have something to sell!"

Hee. Hee.

-- Hee (hee@hee.hee), August 25, 1999.


Here's one:

"Jim Lord is selling one hour y2k prep videos on a VHS cassette shipped to your door for $4! What a racket! Why, that's almost as much as they charge me for a beer in the airport! Can you imagine the profit he's making? It's got to be at least a nickel off each tape, so if sells 500, why, he'll be pocketing $25! What a louse!"

-- a (a@a.a), August 25, 1999.


Besides! i set my pc ahead to 2000 and NOTHING HAPPENED! It's all Hype!

-- Super (slfsl@yahoo.com), August 25, 1999.


We're urban folks. My good DWGI friend, a tax lawyer married to a restaurant owner, pronounced soundly on y2k: "I have more important things to think about--like lunch."

She also has three little kids, so when TSHTF (oops, I mean, if it's a bad weekend), they'll all trot over the backyard fence in their very- JIT neighbourhood and keep cozy in a friend's hot tub.

-- PH (spin@on.ca), August 25, 1999.


Oh, I don't think anything bad will happen. (Like the computer code gives a flying rat's ass what you think.)

-- Pearlie Sweetcake (storestuff@home.now), August 25, 1999.

If they can send a man to the moon, surely they'll get this Y2K thing fixed. If there's any problems, I can always get water from the pool and I have my bike to get around.

-- Jim (x@x.x), August 25, 1999.

and the classic...

"I'll just come over to your house! Bwaaahahahaha!

-- Dave (aaa@aaa.com), August 25, 1999.


And I was told the GI mentals didn't understand anything. You know MOST of the arguments that refute the inane ramblings of doom. Good for you. Now be careful or you might think to much about this and break your "meme" and then you may even [shock, horror] UN-get it!

What? leave the holy Church of Yourdone? NEVER!

-- You dudes (sure@re.good.for.a.laugh!), August 25, 1999.


Its just a matter of thinking positive. If a few little glitches show up, big deal. There is not one thing that Y2K might cause that we have not been through lots and lots of times before. If my power goes out, I can just light a candle until they fix the problems. If my bank loses my money, I will just show everyone my checkbook, and be able to write checks until they fix the problems. If the grocery stores can't get food, I'll just go to Burger King instead until they fix the problems. If riots happen, I'll just say to everyone, "Think positive until they fix the problems."

That is why doomers are so threatening us. We really need EVERYONE to think positive until they fix the problems.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 25, 1999.

Y2K CAN BE FIXED!

-- Jack (jsprat@eld.net), August 25, 1999.

"It won't be the end of the world as we know it!"

(Even though every new day marks the end of the world as we know it)

Bwahhhhaaaaahhhaaaahhhhaaaa

Hee.Hee.

-- Hee. (Hee@Hee.Hee), August 25, 1999.


Planes will NOT FALL FROM THE SKY-- the won't! i'm telling you they won't person whispers: (they might not be in the sky to begin with, due to insurance concerns)

--HEY, Shutup!--- there's nothing to worry about!-- planes will NOT fall from the sky!

-- Super (Slfsl@yahoo.com), August 25, 1999.


Sorry to intrude on your attempt at humor but I JUST HAD TO commend KOS on FINALLY saying something/anything that will actually help his fellow man.

Will wonders never cease..........

I, for one, am in shock!

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 25, 1999.


well, i'm a cobol programmer and i don't get it... all of our in- house cobol systems have been compliant since july, 1999 and there's only an occasional tweak or so every now and then.. no big deal whatsoever... we started early, got sidetracked for a while, finished ahead of deadlines... we still doin' it!!!

so what's the problem? the media says everything's fixed, or will be... 20/20's john stocil (sp) hasn't exposed anything and he is the ultimate skeptic...

my brother the stock broker thinks my alter-ego-gi sister is insane. gee, from the information i'm getting from the news and the no- brainer at work, well, i just don't know why all of these people don't understand it's gonna be ok... y2k-ok??... get it??

-- booann (cantsay@lovemyjob.edu), August 25, 1999.


Riots? There won't be any riots! Parents have taught their kids to RESPECT people and property, and of course the opinion by some "downtrodden" folks that America "owes them a living" went out of fashion LONG AGO.

People in America don't steal from others, or beat them, or rape them, or kill them just "for fun". No, everyone is concerned about the rights and welfare of others....

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), August 25, 1999.


OK, here I go:

"THEY" will get it fixed, because "THEY" have so much to lose.

Southside Ed

-- Southside Ed (Still@home.fornow), August 25, 1999.


Cool.....

I'm sure it will be Y2K OK, cause Bill Clinton said so! And I know he wouldn't lie, I mean, he really learned his lesson in the Monica scandal...........

-- Bob (bob@bob.bob), August 25, 1999.


What Y2K bug? Didn't you folks hear?? I fixed it....

-- DJ (reality@check.com), August 25, 1999.

Experts say the problems will be local. I plan not to be local.

-- Homer Beanfang ((loco@local.com)), August 25, 1999.

This IS fun!!!

I love being Polly for a day.

Hey I'm not worried because I know planes aren't gonna fall out of the sky and all the ATMs will work. Besides theres this guy prepping real heavy down the road and I'll just go to his house if the trucks are stalled for a few days. I'm sure that the pharamcies and grocery stores all have big cases of stuff in their back rooms anyway. Theres enough stuff to last for ever!

Besides, so what if we lose power? Happens here every winter. Gas prices are already outrageous and they can't get any higher. Things will stay the same because everyone wants them to. They won't let it happen because they are so greedy and won't want to lose money.

-- R (riversoma@aol.com), August 25, 1999.


you can't get the clap on the first date.

.

-- corrine 1 (corrine@iwaynet.net), August 25, 1999.


Hmmmm.....

Folks, there is no historical evidence to show that any type of computer problem can cause such disruption.

Think of how many times this last century "The End Of The World As We Know It" has been forecast. Remember Howard Ruff? He was peddling junk silver and vitamins (now, regular vitamins won't be adequate under the stressful conditions in the coming collapse).

The world was supposed to be so interconnected that a general European war could not be fought. It would bankrupt the antagonists (This from the 1913-1914 era....).

I simply refuse to worry about another in a long series of disaster scenarios that pessimistic people try to drag me into.

I think we need an immediate crash program to develop a meme vaccine.

I think I need a beer.

-- Jon Williamson (jwilliamson003@sprintmail.com), August 25, 1999.


I'll bite...

What do you mean we'll run out of water? The ocean is full of it!

-- mar (derigueur2@aol.com), August 25, 1999.


And the scary thing is ... Deano was being SERIOUS.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 25, 1999.

What can I say KOS???

That's the only thing you've ever said that made any sense at all. You should be proud dude!!! I, for one, am damn proud of ya!!

Keep up the good work!!

Deano

-- Deano (deano@luvthebeach.com), August 25, 1999.


Ever hear of dumb and dumber? Well, doom and doomer! So there. Besides, it DOES rain occasionally, and cows eat grass (and they have big muscles!). And in the summer, its really hot out, so I'll be OK for the summer, and if it gets really cold in the winter, we'll birds fly south, don't they? I'm at least as smart as a bird!

Owl

-- owl (new@new.com), August 25, 1999.


Look man, Y2K is a hoax! Ya know, like Publishers' Clearing House, or something like that. Its a fake, like the moon landings, and Elvis sightings. Its not real!!, its all hoddy toddy, like UFO's and Greys. Man, don't you doomers get nothin? Everything is A-OK, like you know, genetically altered food! Its fine!!!!!

-- stickler (foo@loo.com), August 25, 1999.

AT&T and GM fell for a hoax! Besides, insects are tasty! The worst thing that can happen is that my wife will have to breast-feed the entire family!

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), August 25, 1999.

Whattaya think, organizations with Y2K failures are just gonna roll over and die or something? (Although the senior management may go underground for a while, leaving it to the techies, while Customers start looking for replacement vendors.. witness MCI WorldCom)

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), August 25, 1999.

Well I never believed it in the first place. All those millions of dollars being spent by the big corporations are actually going in the ass pockets of the CEO's and others in administration to finance their new homes and cars and such.

This is how they keep the embezzeling info from all those clueless stockholders.

And of course the clintons get all the so called, Y2K fix money that has supposedly been spent on DOD and FAA. Lies I tell you, all lies!!

This is fun! ;->

-- Sammie (sammie0X@hotmail.com), August 25, 1999.


Well, duhhhhhhh!~~~~~~Like they have these, you know, these like patch things, all over the internet. And you can like, load up these patches, you know, except they're not really like PATCHES like what you wear to stop SMOKING or anything thing, they're like these....I don't know, these like THINGS that you load up, you know from the internet. you know, like when you click on the little button and the little line starts moving across your screen and you wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you know, like when you LOAD UP something. Annnnnnyyyyyway these patch things like, I don't know, like SMOTHER the bugs, or something and then they can't make your drive thingy crash anymore, or something. I mean GAAAAAD, if people would just, you know, like stop WHINING and load up their patches, we'd all be okay. 'kay?

I'm going shopping now. Laters(BEG)

-- Bokonon (bok0non@my-Deja.com), August 25, 1999.


I git my welfare chek from the govenment evry wek an I cash it at the store. Who needs banks?

-- helium (heliumavid@yahoo.com), August 25, 1999.

Oh COME ON,

We did O.K. before we even had computers. We can still run things without 'em. Go back to manual, you know. Throw the switches by hand for the trains, and there's a manual work-around for every circuit on the grid.

Besides, there are not that many embedded that really will fail, and we'll find them in plenty of time. Just use your heads, there's simply too much at stake here - THEY would never let this happen. THEY will fix it in time. Stop listening to those fear mongers who are making fortunes aout of scaring people.

You KNOW the only ones actually preparing are social weirdos who secretly wish for an end to civilization and wear tinfoil hats in their bunkers. (What a bunch of losers!)

-- Lon Frank (lgal@exp.net), August 25, 1999.


What's Y2K????

-- wax (watin@for.com), August 25, 1999.

Ah don't need nothin but the Lord, ah tell you, the Lord!!! And if the Lord wants te take me, then He will take me, I tell ya, He will take me!!! So brothers and sisters, together, let us pray that he will give us alllll we needuh, I said alllllll we needuh, in this grave hour. And what do we neeeeduh? The Lord, I tell ya, the Lord. Ahem.

-- remmy (remmy@dot.com), August 25, 1999.

Y2K? Well, by golly, I'm ready! I've got 2 LARGE cans of Raid in MY cabinet! :-)

-- Gayla (privacy@please.com), August 25, 1999.

We can run the trains on peanut oil if need be.

-- Mr. Peanut (@ .), August 25, 1999.

--yeah, like gayle said-- you don't want to end up looking silly digging up your backyard like on a KIA commercial do you? no wonder there are still pollies around...this is way too much fun

-- Super (Slfsl@yahoo.com), August 25, 1999.

W-e-l-l...

I trust ALL our elected and non-elected officials to tell us the complete... TRUTH!

All those silly little doomish Congressional testimonies at the House Armed Services Committee, or the Senate Y2K committee---from the CIA spokespeople, from the State Department, from the GAO, and all branches of the military, etc.--are all non-sense. (Mostly because no sane person can make sense of their drivel).

Clinton KNOWS... Y2K is OK... and hes appointed the best lawyer in the country to be our Y2K Czar. Look... they are even spending $44 million dollars of taxpayer money to monitor this global non-event with the ICC. They have always spent our money wisely and with our best interests at heart. Our government honors the right stuff and will only do what is responsible for... the little people.

And just look... at all the money all those big corporations and private enterprises have already spent! Its an investment in our future and they always protect their investments and provide superb customer service too. There is absolutely NO-thing to worry about in our country or in our state. They will fix it. Dont they always fix us?

Anyway... Y2K problems will ALL happen overseas. Well be fine.

;-)

Gotta run, and plant more flowers in the garden... Martha Stewart had a nifty idea on TeeVee this morning!

@}->--

Herbal tea anyone?

Pollyanna

-- Aunt Polly*Di*Ana (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 25, 1999.


Oh pu-leeze computers fail every day and the world hasn't come to a screeching halt yet.

Although I hear it's going to be really bad in Europe.

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), August 25, 1999.


If you ...THINK.... that , AMERICA...is gonna let something like that happen...you are outta your mind! Think about it! who is gonna sit around and do nothing? (Flicking the lights on and off)- "How many times in your life have you NOT been able to do this?"

-- KoFE (your@town.USA), August 25, 1999.

ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO!

You all are posting every line you ever heard in "Real Life!"

ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO! ROTFLMAO!

Keep on keeping on!

(What was it that your brother-in-law said?)

ROTFLMAO!

-- ROTFLMAO! (ROTFLMAO!@ROTFLMAO!.ROTFLMAO!), August 25, 1999.


The only people who believe Y2K is serious are right-wing whackos who PRAY that society collapses. It's a religious cult! Gary North hopes for TEOTWAWKI...that PROVES Y2K will be a BITR! Ed Yourdon predicted problems on July 1 from the JAE, and NOTHING HAPPENED! That PROVES Y2K will be a BITR! Paul Milne is a pig farmer! That PROVES that Y2K will be a BITR! Planes didn't fall from the sky during the GPS rollover...which PROVES, dammit, that Y2K will be a BITR!

You STOOPID DOOOOOMERS will only believe BAD NEWS, like the Navy infrastructure report. If you hear GOOD NEWS, you KNOW it's a lie!! That, for damn sure, PROVES that Y2K is A-OK!

Besides, I have asked you and asked you to tell me ONE, just ONE SINGLE documented embedded system problem...name and model #...AND YOU CAN'T DO IT! That, By Gawd, PROVES....that if I keep shouting at you, calling you morons and using my capslock key a lot...you will be FORCED to see that I AM SMARTER THAN YOU, and, I say Y2K WILL BE A BITR!!! So there.

(Geez, I feel so much better now)

-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), August 25, 1999.


You don't think that big business is going to let anything happen to their income do you?

This is just a bunch of hype to make money. There is no problem.

There are plenty of farms to feed people. No one will go hungry. The government says to prepare like you would for a hurricane. We never get hurricanes here.

If the grocery stores run out of food, I will go to McDonalds or the cafe down the street.

Yeah, right, like the government would let anyone starve or die of thirst.

I think you spend too much time on conspiracy web pages. The government has always looked out for everyone. I bet you believe in UFO's too.

Yeah, people thought the world was going to end in 1000 too. We're still here right?

(LOL, these are all answers I have heard when discussing y2K....)

-- Dian (bdp@accessunited.com), August 26, 1999.


They'll fix everything. If they didn't they'd lose money.

(yeah, like everyone who ever lost money wanted to lose it. ! )

-- biker (y2kbiker@worldnet.att.net), August 26, 1999.


So what you're saying is that this could all lead to the end of life as we know it? Right!!! If that's so, Somebody Important (and smarter than you) would be warning the American people, I'm sure.

I'm the cynic in this family, and if I can trust the banks and media and government and big business on this, you don't need to worry about it anymore. Nothing is going to happen. I'm the man of the house, and I think you should trust me on this. Men are always smarter and more levelheaded than women, and this is just one more example of it.

You need to stop listening to all those crazy doom-and-gloom people, because you're starting to act crazy too! Do you know how I feel when I see all those bottles of water lined up, or open the cabinet and see all that lamp oil, candles, matches and crap? Do you know how many years it's going to take us to use up all that spaghetti? You buy me a new campstove, a solar radio and solar lantern for Christmas, tell me it's for the family camping trips we've started taking with the kids ... you think I don't KNOW what you're up to? I thought you were a sensible, intelligent woman, and a good mother, and look at what you're doing?! How would you feel if I started acting like this?!

-- Kristi (KsaintA@aol.com), August 26, 1999.


Well, even if the utilities have some computer problems, electricity isn't generated by computer, and won't be affected.

Besides, here in Alberta it's estimated that we're at 95 to 98% complete - and we don't really *need* anything from elsewhere. Although some produce would be nice.

And my accountant/financial planner says that the markets are fine. He's done a lot of research into this thing, and he says there are just a bunch of folk making a mountain out of a molehill.

It's not like it's going to take anyone by surprise, I mean, this isn't a *new* problem...

-- T the C (tricia_canuck@hotmail.com), August 26, 1999.


Everyone knows all of the information on the internet is B.S., you really should rely upon a trustworthy source, like your local newspaper or T.V. news.....

What Senate testimony?

What's FEMA?

What's an Executive Order?

-- Deborah (infowars@yahoo.com), August 26, 1999.


TOP!!!!!

-- Too good to let die (I want more@more.more), August 27, 1999.

There will be no food shortage! I have a copy of "Alive" and I know I'll never run out of food as long as my dead neighbors are around to provide me with butt-jerky. It worked for that soccer team from Chile, so it's good enough for me!

-- chuck (chuck.L@haha.com), August 29, 1999.

I've looked at countless computers over the last 31 years, and I haven't found a single line of code that had anything to do with a date!

This is a money-making hoax! Don't believe it, computers don't care what time it is!!!

What a bunch of goof-balls, thinking that a computer could effect our lives!

Signed, Stephen M. Poole...

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), August 29, 1999.


(This started out as a fun thread, but has turned into one of the scariest ones I've read lately. All the Polly arguments we've heard for two years, stripped of intelectual hoopla, camoflaging minutiae, and hidden-agenda spin, is just, well, ..laughable. But if no "good news" argument holds water, what does that leave us with?)

-- Lon Frank (lgal@exp.net), August 29, 1999.

Trusting our President.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 29, 1999.

Some of the favs I've heard over the months in my travels that are worth repeating:

"So what?"

"Who cares?"

"Funny...I had the impression that you were too intelligent be swayed by extremists..."

"Stop printing this stuff and putting it on my desk...you're making the co-workers uneasy!"

"Yeah, they're making me work New Year's weekend...oh well, I'll get paid doubletime to read magazines surf the internet, dork around...maybe I'll bring in my putter and practice in the office."

"What's the big deal? WE HAVE BACKUPS."

"If all else fails, we'll switch all the clocks back to 1972 as a last resort. A simple, yet elegant approach that'll take a few hours to execute."

"What's the big deal? Customer Support will handle it. By the way, while you're here, could you check my computer or give me some hints? My workstation isn't booting up right...could be the login script, access to rights, who knows. I've placed two calls about this, and they have yet to get back to me..."

"Why do you constantly insist on contingency planning? Geez...you'd think the world was coming to an end or something."



-- Tim (pixmo@pixelquest.com), August 29, 1999.

Honest people such as Clinton and Koskinen as well as respected bankers and lawyers have all agreed Y2K will be nothing more than a bump in the road. Surely they know more than any of us.

I have come across many bumps in the road during my life, and have survived them all.

Well, of course there WAS that ONE bump on I-75 that blew my tire, bent the rim and broke the front strut.......HOWEVER, being stranded on the side of the highway at midnight in a strange State is NOT THE END OF THE WORLD for Heaven's sake!! It's not like the car rolled and killed me.......

-- Sheila (sross@bconnex.net), August 29, 1999.


one of my personal favorites:

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN! we all agree "Nobody Knows what will happen"

but whatever happens, will be nothing!

-- Super (slfsl@yahoo.com), August 31, 1999.


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