What, if any, will be the trigger and when?

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Question for the doomers (of course). What and when do you think the trigger will happen. Personally, if I were the King of DC, I would want to not wait for things to get out of hand before taking charge. This would mean well before mid-Dec when everyone thinks it will be. Would control panic before it happens. Have not figured out the time frame though. Maybe end of Sept or Oct to nip the problem before it starts. Whatcha think?

-- Bill (tinfoil@sombrero.com), August 24, 1999

Answers

Mid October falling dollar,higher rates,market crash,hysteria,bankruns hedge fund collapse.

-- TheProphet (light@night.see), August 24, 1999.

Gold drops to 20 year low after Bank of England sells 25 tons

-- When will (or@when.did), August 24, 1999.

there is a thread on this subject at HumptyDumpty. Its called Post Y2K

-- Taz (Tassie@aol.com), August 24, 1999.

Bill,

Never underestimate the power of denial. It could be January, the lights are out across the entire country, and there would still be people saying, "There's no Y2K problem."

I expected to see at least some small signs, by now.....nada. No shortage of anything, 'round these parts. Plenty of bottled water, plenty of any kind of canned food you can imagine, plenty of beans, plenty of rice, Generators, batteries, you name it. I look at other people's carts, in the check-out lane, no sign of anyone preparing. It's business as usual.

-- Bokonon (bok0non@my-Deja.com), August 24, 1999.


I believe alot of people are on the fence waiting to see if there are actual tangible problems. Some upcoming actions which may convince a few more that some preparation is prudent could be:

1. September announcement by State Dept regarding international warnings for Y2K threats.

2. NRC actually ordering a shutdown of any unsafe nuclear reactors.

3. Stock market drop and gold rising. As long as economy is sailing along most will not give Y2K serious consdieration.

4. International turmoil. Hotspots around the world are more stressed than the USA, UK, Canada and Australia so these hotspots may show (are sahowing?) signs of an impending global catastrophe. Some hotpsots noted on this forum include: China (devaluation); Japan (Banking overextension); Latin America (Riots in Argentina, Martial Law in Venezuela, Default in Ecudaor); Taiwan (Threatened by China); N. Korea (Testing ICBM?); Russia (????) etc.

-- Bill P (porterwn@one.net), August 24, 1999.



1). They have a PLAN

2). They are monitorig KEY indicators.

3). They will IMPLEMENT the PLAN when these indicators are flashing RED or by a certain date, which ever comes first.

4). Their worst FEAR is that something they have not considered occurs and they wind up behind the EIGHT BALL.

Ray

-- Ray (ray@tottacc.com), August 24, 1999.


There will be no "trigger". The masses are happy and employed right now. It's the economy stupid! Remember that catchy phrase? Slick Willie got it right when he coined that one. Reference his impeachment. The masses didnt' care because it just didn't affect them. Why would the governement declare martial law when John Q. Public is calm? The spinning is working. There has never been anyone better at spin than the Clinton Adminstration. People will be complacent about Y2K until it starts to affect them in the pocketbook or when their daily lives are disrupted by Y2K related events. This probably won't happen until after the rollover. When the lights don't go on. When the tap doesn't produce water. When their house gets cold and they have to sit around with blankets. Or when businesses have to start laying people off because of supply chain problems. If (and a big IF) there is any hype that affects the general public without any of the above events happening it won't be until late December. Peoples attention spans aren't that long. Reference the impeachment again. Most people don't have the inclination to even spend time trying to understand interdependecies, embedded chips, etc. Much too complicated. Can't you put that in a half hour sitcom format? Sad but true.

-- Scott B. (sebram98@yahoo.com), August 24, 1999.

what will be the trigger? asteroids? little green men?? well- maybe- maybe not, but if not- don't think anyone who hasn't gotten it yet will get it for quite a bit. Or not til gas lines, power failures, bank runs, food shorages if/when they occur. Re: stuff in stores- noticed at both Wal-Mart and local hardware store that can openers are pretty well sold out- also wooden matches are gone. Was hard to pick up plastic buckets at grocery store for free for awhile but can get them now. Big plastic storage bins moving well. In general- seems that the true prepper doomers bought/snatched stuff up early- now it's the 3-day storm types picking up matches and can openers. BTW- good time to pick up vitamins if you so desire- stuff like that is readily available. So- don't see large numbers of GI's out here- just 3-day BITR mostly......

-- farmer (hillsidefarm@drbs.net), August 24, 1999.

Let's see Dec 25, unwrap presents Dec 26, exchange presents Dec 27, after Xmas sales Dec 28, I'll stock up tommorrow Dec 29, Nope didn't make it today Dec 30, Better do it for sure today, because everyone else is going to stock up tommorrow Dec 31, Damn those stores were empty yesterday. Boy, was that little old lady funny when I wrestled that last bag of dog food away from her.

-- Mikey2k (mikey2k@he.wont.eat.it), August 24, 1999.

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