San Jose's Y2K contingency planning

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-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999

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August 23, 1999

San Jose ready for bug, leaders tell Rep. Horn

Erik Espe Business Journal Staff Writer

The city of San Jose is ready for Y2K.

That's what various city and area agency officials told U.S. Rep. Stephen Horn during an Aug. 14 hearing at City Hall--the 11th stop in a series of congressional field hearings held across the country.

Rep. Horn, R-Long Beach, is chairman of the House Subcommittee on Government Management, Information and Technology. He wanted to know what San Jose would do if the worst happened during the onset of the Y2K bug.

"Let's say you had a riot?" Rep. Horn asked San Jose police chief William Landsdown.

Mr. Landsdown assured the congressman that San Jose--like the rest of the state--was prepared for that eventuality. The National Guard will be on standby for 72 hours during the New Year's Eve weekend beginning Friday, Dec. 31.

Telephone and radio systems in the police department have been tested and deemed Y2K compliant, though the department's computerized dispatch system has yet to be tested, he said.

In anticipation of an expected increase in calls, police communications personnel will be working 12-hour shifts from Dec. 31 to Jan. 2. In the event of a total loss of radio power, the department plans to fall back on a portable radio system.

"There's nothing that's going to happen that this department isn't going to be able to handle," Mr. Landsdown said.

Most of the testimony at the hearing indicated that the "worst" that could happen during Y2K would be a massive power failure.

In his testimony at the hearing, Garth Hall, program manager of the Y2K program management office at Pacific Gas & Electric Co. assured Rep. Horn that the energy company expects "January 1, 2000 to be a day like any other day."

"To date, we have not found any Y2K problems that we have not been able to resolve," he said.

But that isn't preventing some agencies from preparing for power outages.

Dana Drysdale, vice president of information systems at the San Jose Water Co., said the area's water supply could be affected by power failures related to Y2K.

In his testimony submitted to the hearing, Mr. Drysdale said the water company should have enough water in its reservoirs to supply Silicon Valley with water for two days, even if there is a massive power failure. But a failure that lasts any longer could cause water shortages.

"Operating the water system under emergency conditions during a sustained regional power outage is very different than typical water delivery and may result in some water supply outages," he said.

Frances Winslow, the city's director of emergency preparedness, said that city staff will be on hand all night Dec. 31, while the city's executive staff are on standby should further assistance be required. The city plans to monitor the effect of Y2K in other parts of the world where the bug will strike first.

San Jose's Fire Department plans to have three days of food, water, sanitation, portable electrical pumps and portable dispatch units on hand during the period.

How much have all the preparations cost the city so far?

San Jose Y2K project manager Mark Burton told the hearing that the city has allocated more than $10 million to bringing its systems into compliance since 1997. Sixty percent of that went to the San Jose airport, which will be going down to the wire in its Y2K compliance efforts.

While the airport expects to have all its business systems and equipment compliant by Sept. 30, its parking system won't be compliant until November.

Even though government agencies are preparing for the worst, PG&E reported that only a "modest" level of its customer base has expressed concerns about Y2K.

PG&E's special Web page devoted to the Y2K issue only receives 9,000 hits a month, said Garth Hall, manager of PG&E's Project 2000.

Mr. Horn already had visited New York, New Orleans, Chicago, Dallas, Seattle and other cities to hear from police, city, state, energy and corporate officials on their Y2K readiness efforts.

The subcommittee will issue a report on the findings later in the year.

You can reach Mr. Espe at eespe@amcity.com.

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-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999.


...Telephone and radio systems in the police department have been tested and deemed Y2K compliant, though the department's computerized dispatch system has yet to be tested, he said.

Most of the testimony at the hearing indicated that the "worst" that could happen during Y2K would be a massive power failure.

(But note... In the event of a total loss of radio power, the department plans to fall back on a portable radio system.)

"To date, we have not found any Y2K problems that we have not been able to resolve," -- PG&E

Uh, DETAILS, please!

... San Jose Water Co., said the area's water supply could be affected by power failures related to Y2K.

[Gee... didnt the U.S. Navy kinda recently allude to that?]

... the water company should have enough water in its reservoirs to supply Silicon Valley with water for two days, even if there is a massive power failure. But a failure that lasts any longer could cause water shortages. ...

TWO DAYS!???!!!!! Sheesh!

"Operating the water system under emergency conditions during a sustained regional power outage is very different than typical water delivery and may result in some water supply outages," he said.

Duh. *Sigh*

Details... details.

San Jose's Fire Department plans to have three days of food, water, sanitation, portable electrical pumps and portable dispatch units on hand during the period.

Gawd! I need a DRINK!!!

...the San Jose airport, which will be going down to the wire in its Y2K compliance efforts.

...PG&E reported that only a "modest" level of its customer base has expressed concerns about Y2K.

Phone call time. Again.

Thanks, Linkmeister.

Latte time.

;-(

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 23, 1999.


Diane,

I had a hunch you'd want to see that article.

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999.


Linkmeister,

I have a "hunch" you just wanted to "make my day!" Either that... or prove the Navy "Y2K Pentagon Papers" (Jim Lord's June 1999 version) right!

;-D

Uh, you happen to know where that Senate Testimony is that lists San Jose as one of the worst prepared cities?

Thanks... I'm feeling "search impared" at the moment.

Diane

See also...

SJ Water Co Y2k statment (short)

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id= 001HtN



-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 23, 1999.


I feel sooooo much safer now!

Tell me when its safe to come out from under the bed!

-- helium (heliumavid@yahoo.com), August 23, 1999.



Diane,

Try this link from the Senate Y2K committee's July 15th hearing. It based on the GAO's survey from late June/early July:

http://www.senate.gov/~y2k/hearings/990715/chart4_tbl.gif

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999.


Diane,

There's also the GAO report itself:

http://www.gao.gov/corresp/AI99246R.PDF

Can someone who knows how to print .pdf files post this document on the forum?

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999.


ok...something just bugs the heck outta me here.

Horn is from Long Beach. Long Beach is the city that borders my city. I can walk to "Long Beach." There have been no hearings at my city hall. Horn hasn't been down here being vocal or doing anything public about checking out the local contingencies. Does he have a personal interest in that area i.e. his own bug out plans?

I am starting to think LA County has been put on the endangered species...uh, I mean...cities list and it's gonna be left to die off.

This jumped out at me...

"Let's say you had a riot?" Rep. Horn asked San Jose police chief William Landsdown. "

Let's say you had a riot? Humm...I think our Rep. Horn is a bigtime GI.

Mike

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


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Friday July 16 1:31 AM ET

Big U.S. Cities Slow On Y2K Readiness

By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Many big U.S. cities -- including Los Angeles, Chicago and Washington -- are leaving themselves scant time to complete preparations for possible year 2000-related computer glitches, the audit arm of Congress said Thursday.

In addition, nine states are ``behind'' in efforts to ensure their most critical systems do not fail when the year 2000 dawns, said the head of a Senate panel monitoring the issue.

The nine -- which reported having completed work on less than 70 percent of their most important systems -- are New Hampshire, Ohio, Alabama, Louisiana, Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico, California and Hawaii.

On a local level, only 55 percent of the smallest counties surveyed -- those with a population below 10,000 -- say they have countywide emergency plans to cope with possible 2000-related disruptions to vital services, the National Association of Counties reported.

At issue are fears that some computers may crash or scramble data by misreading 2000 as 1900, the result of old space constraints that pared the date field to two digits.

Any such glitches, known as Y2K problems, could disrupt the provision of water and waste treatment, emergency services, transportation systems, city government services and the operation of public buildings among other services.

The problem could also boggle systems that hinge on date-sensitive microchips, such as traffic signals, radio communications and 911 emergency services that rely on global positioning systems.

Dallas and Boston were alone among the 21 biggest U.S. cities to report completion of efforts to deal with the so-called Y2K problem, the General Accounting Office said. The GAO is the audit and investigative arm of Congress.

Nine cities -- New York; Houston; Philadelphia; San Diego; San Jose, California; Indianapolis, Indiana; Jacksonville, Florida; Memphis, Tennessee; and Milwaukee -- said they expected to complete preparations by Sept. 30.

The remaining 10 -- Los Angeles; Chicago; Phoenix; San Antonio, Texas; Detroit; San Francisco; Baltimore; Columbus, Ohio; El Paso, Texas; and Washington -- said they expected to be ready by Dec. 31.

Joel Willemssen, head of a GAO arm that tracks information systems, voiced concern about the laggards. He made his comments in a letter released at a hearing of the Special Committee on Y2K issues.

``Completing Y2K activities in the last months of the year increases the risk that key services will not be Y2K-ready in time for 2000 because there will not be enough time to deal with unanticipated complications,'' Willemssen said.

``Given the amount of Y2K work remaining to be done in the last months of the year, contingency plans are critical to ensure that cities will continue to provide key services through the year 2000 date change,'' he added.

The Senate panel displayed a chart showing that only 43 percent of the 21 cities' key systems were said by the cities themselves to be ready as of July for the date change.

The GAO carried out the study by interviewing city officials by telephone from June 28 to July 9.

Sen. Robert Bennett, a Utah Republican who heads the special Y2K committee, said he feared that many state and local governments were ``leaving little room for testing, contingency planning and unexpected problems.''

``I hope these statistics aren't as bad as they appear,'' he said in a written statement.

``Only very efficient executive-level management and contingency planning can sustain us through the upcoming historic date change,'' added panel Vice Chairman Sen. Christopher Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat.

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-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999.


Linkmeister,

I downloaded that pdf and something really strange is going on here. The pages are images, the result of a scan of each page. Very, very strange. A pdf file is very easy to create if the original electronic document exists. This took way more effort than was required.

Anyway, the bottom line is that typically in a pdf you can highlight text, copy and paste into another application. I can't do that with this...but I think I can by using OCR technology. I'll see what I can do but it will take time.

Mike

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.



I actually had to type this out from that pdf...but it's interesting!!!

The biggest thing that jumped out at me about this survey was that it ONLY takes into account services under the control of the local city governments...

I plan on typing out the rest of this report, including the tables.

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GAO United States General Accounting Office Washington, D.C. 20548

Accounting and Information Management Division

B-283214

July 15, 1999

The Honorable Robert F. Bennett Chairman The Honorable Christopher Dodd Vice Chairman Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem United States Senate

Subject: Reported Y2k States of the 21 Largest U.S. Cities

Key city services - including the provision of water and waste-water treatment, emergency services, transportation systems, city government services, and the operation public buildings - are critical to the safety and well being of city residents as we move into the next century. At your request, we identified the reported Year 2000 (Y2k) status of the nation's 21 largest cities (1). On July 12, 1999, we briefed your office on the results of our work. This letter provides a high-level summery of the information presented at that briefing, including background information and the reported readiness of those cities. The briefing slides are included in appendix 1.

Background

Most large cities provide their residents a variety of services, often including water and wastewater services, and emergency medical services. Cities also typically own and operate telecommunications systems, public buildings, and a variety of city government services, including city payroll, revenue collection and payment systems. Although a few cities also operate hospitals and electric power plants, these services are most often provided by state, county, or private entities.

It is important to note that some key services are provided by a mix of city and other entities. For example, within the transportation service area, most cities are responsible for traffic lights and controls, but not for subways and commuter rail systems. Throughout this letter and briefing, when discussing the Y2k status of key service areas, we only address the portion that is city owned and operated.

In providing key services to city residents, cities often use automated systems and equipment. These systems and equipment are subject to Y2k failures. Such failures could lead to a breakdown in a city's infrastructure, potentially seriously affecting city residents.

Cities Reported Y2k Readiness Varies

Our survey of major cities identified significant variances in reported Y2k readiness. Two cities reported that they had completed their Y2k efforts. Nine cities expected to complete their Y2k preparations by September 30, and the remaining 10 cities expected to complete their preparations by December 31 (2). Completing Y2k activities in the last months of the year increases the risk that key services will not be Y2k ready in time for 2000, because there will not be enough time to deal with unanticipated complications.

On average, cities reported completing work for 45 percent of the key service areas in which they had some responsibility. They also stated that work is well underway on the remaining services. Cities were most likely to have reported completing work in their transportation systems and telecommunications equipment. Relatively few, however, reported completing their portions of water and wastewater treatment systems, public building systems, and emergency service systems.

Given the amount of Y2k work remaining to be done in the last months of the year contingency plans are critical to ensure that cities will continue to provide key services through the Year 2000 date change. Seven large cities reported completing contingency plans, while 14 cities reported that their plans are still being developed. Further, 20 of the 21 largest cities recognized the value of testing their contingency plans. 5 cities stated that they had completed this exercise; 7 cities reported that such testing was underway; and 8 reported that they planned to test their contingency plans. Only one city stated that it would not test contingency plans.

Objectives, Scope, and Methodology

As requested, our objective was to identify the reported Y2k status of key services provided by the nation's 21 largest cities. To do so, we developed a structured set of questions, and interviewed city officials by telephone between June 28 and July 9, 1999. When appropriate we requested supporting documentation. We also reviewed city web sites to supplement city official's responses. We confirmed our understanding or their Y2k status by sending summaries of our interviews to city officials and asking them to confirm or modify their reported status, as appropriate. We conducted our work in Washington, D.C. and Atlanta, GA from June 28, 1999 through July 13, 1999.

[My note: at this point a large gap about the size of a large paragraph appears in the document, perhaps where redacted information was covered or a large break in the document...kind of strange]

As agreed with your office, we will send copies to the Honorable John Koskinen, Chairman of the President's Council on Year 2000 conversion; the Honorable Jacob J. Lew, Director of the Office of Management and Budget; and other interested parties. Copies will also be made available to others upon request.

If you have any questions on matters discussed in this letter, please call me at (202) 512-6408, or Colleen Phillips, Assistant Director, at (202) 512-6326. We can also be reached by e-mail at willemssenj.aimd@gao.gov and phillipsc.aimd@gao.gov, respectively. Key contributors to this assignment were Glenda Wright, Barbarol James, and Sandra Fissel.

Joel C. Willemssen Director, Civil Agencies Information Services

GAO/AIMD-99-246R Y2k Status of 21 Largest Cities

-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


[referenced in above letter]

(1) Accourding to 1996 popluation estimates, the United States' 21 largest cities are (1) New York (2) Los Angeles (3) Chicago (4) Houston (5) Philidelphia (6) San Diego (7) Phoenix (8) San Antonia (9) Dallas (10) Detroit (11) San Jose (12) Indianapolis (13) San Francisco (14) Jacksonville, FL (15) Baltimore (16) Columbus, OH (17) El Paso (18) Memphis (19) Milwaukee (20) Boston (21) Washington D.C.

(2) In most cities, the majority of city services are scheduled to be completed before this completion date. For example, Los Angeles plans to have all key city systems ready by Semptember 30, except for it's wastewater treatment systems, which are to be completed in November. Similarly, El Paso plans to be Year 2000 ready by September 1, except for its police department, which is scheduled for completion on December 1.

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


Michael, we'd eMail this question to you but our iMac is in the shop and the loaner can't access our eMail ... who knows when/if it'll be fixed ... you mentioned OCR technology ... what do you use? We've heard OmniPage is the best, and we're thinking of buying the new Agfa SnapScan Touch USB scanner -- one-button through-put to printing, fax, eMail, or application, etc. = color photocopying! What do you use?

Can you import PDF into MS Word, then copy 'n paste?

Guess Cali took the 3-day thingy literally. 2 days of water, right, smart for the desert crammed with millions of unprepared weeples.

Mac, Michael, Diane -- y'all come up and stay with us, guarantee water :-)

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), August 23, 1999.


well...I have a Global Village 56k modem...it's fairly new... and guess what? I found out that I don't have OCR anymore. That was an application that worked with my previous modem!!! I have to buy the software : (

So that's why I ended up just typing the thing.

I wouldh have faxed the pdf from one of my computers to one of my other computers, taken it through OCR which would have made screwed up the document but at least it would become characters instead of an image. Then I would have exported the new "document", cleaned it up and then copy and paste it into the web browser.

What the heck is wrong with the iMac? Call me, I might be able to help you fix it.

Mike

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


That's sweet of you, Michael! Luckily for you it's under warranty driving the techies crazy in the shop. It's possessed, is the problem LOL anyway that's how it behaves, turning on by itself in the middle of the night, but shorting out if humans try to turn it on. Some sort of defective power analog board problem, so everybody says. Only they can't seem to fix it. Here's a couple looks at the scanner, supposedly the best home appliance since the toaster (gotta do a little more research):

Agfa SnapScan Touch Desktop Scanner

Agfa SnapScan Touch Flatbed Color USB Scanner

A store near us says it's @ $99. They don't have it in yet. Buncha folks over at Apple Forums swear by the Agfa SnapScan 1212u yum, gorgeous!.
Check out this awesome Link!

AppleCare Site Index

The Forums throughout the above are terrific. You can get any questions answered!
Apple is near the area of the above "prepared" proud folks? And Apple's Macs are compliant BUT the company boasts a 1-day JIT inventory *cringe*. Wonder if they GI and if they're planning to stockpile parts? Or if they're gonna be able to meet demand for Y2K-safe Macs?

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), August 23, 1999.



oops, back this goes (maybe).

-- #*)!!+P&# (*@!.X), August 23, 1999.

Key quote from the GAO's late June/early July survey:

On average, cities reported completing work for 45 percent of the key service areas in which they had some responsibility. They also stated that work is well underway on the remaining services. Cities were most likely to have reported completing work in their transportation systems and telecommunications equipment. Relatively few, however, reported completing their portions of water and wastewater treatment systems, public building systems, and emergency service systems.

How likely is it that 100% of the key service areas will be Y2K ready by December? What about the water and wastewater treatment systems?

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999.


Linkmeister, I saw that too. The only thing I could draw logically from that paragraph was that although it seems we are constantly being told that these systems aren't all that complicated the fact is they may be even more complicated that transportation and communication systems.

What good are transportation and communication if there is no water?

Also, remember that LA had a sewage spill during a Y2k test. That spill then caused the city to postpone a test in the Santa Monica area. Considering the size of LA county I don't think there is a chance that things will be done in time. Perhaps that was never a realistic goal anyway.

Mike

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


Yipes!! Of the top 21 sized cities we have Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose and San Francisco all in California. This does not even include many of the larger cities we have in the adjacent areas which just did not happen to make the top 21 list. This is why I feel so good knowing that I should ignore the GAO report, ignore the Navy report, avoid preps for anything more than a 3 day storm. Just for the sake of argument, if one lives in these communitiesw and it turns all to s***, where would one get in their car and drive to where is will be better? It seems that most of California is questionable at best. Got preps?

-- smfdoc (smfdoc@aol.com), August 23, 1999.

Linkmeister n Michael,

Will read your links tomorrow. Cant quite face it all this evening.

BTW, notice that... as an interesting aside note...

Los Angeles, Calif.
San Diego, Calif.
San Francisco, Calif.
San Jose, Calif.

Are all key cities on the army dot mil Domestic Preparedness list...

Domestic Preparedness -- 120 Cities (I swear they keep changing the URL on this link, BTW!)

The ultimate goal of the Domestic Preparedness Team is to train and assess 120 cities. These cities include list...

http:// in1.apgea.army.mil:80/ops/dp/fs/fs_120c.html

Home page...

The U.S. Army Soldier and Biological Chemical Command (SBCCOM)

http://www.sbccom.army.mil/

Search

http:// www.sbccom.army.mil:8090/compass



-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), August 23, 1999.


smfdoc...yea...I know... not comforting eh? look at this...

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Survey Results:

Slide "10"

Cities' Estimates for Completing Y2k Efforts of Key City Services

Currently Y2k Ready

Dallas

Boston

Fully Y2k Ready by September 30, 1999

New York Houston

Philidelphia

San Diego

San Jose

Indianapolis

Jacksonville, FL

Memphis

Milwaukee

Fully Y2k Ready between October 1, 1999 and December 31, 1999

Los Angeles

Chicago

Phoenix

San Antonio

Detroit

San Francisco

Baltimore

Columbus

El Paso

Washington D.C.

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Slide "11"

Cities' Reported Y2k Status

Y=fully ready

N=not ready

N/A = Not Applicable - the city does not own or operate this service.

Note: Many cities operate some (but not all) systems within a key service. Only city-operated systems are addressed in this table)

I've had to reformat the table a bit because I'm HTML challenged.

Electric Power

(1) New York - N/A (2) Los Angeles - Y

(3) Chicago - N/A

(4) Houston - N/A

(5) Philidelphia - N/A

(6) San Diego - N/A

(7) Phoenix - N/A

(8) San Antonia - N

(9) Dallas - N/A

(10) Detroit - N

(11) San Jose - N/A

(12) Indianapolis - N/A

(13) San Francisco - N/A

(14) Jacksonville, FL - N/A

(15) Baltimore - N/A

(16) Columbus, OH - N/A

(17) El Paso - N/A

(18) Memphis - Y

(19) Milwaukee - N/A

(20) Boston - N/A

(21) Washington D.C. - N/A

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Water/Wastewater

(1) New York - Y (2) Los Angeles - N

(3) Chicago - N

(4) Houston - N

(5) Philidelphia - Y

(6) San Diego - N

(7) Phoenix - N

(8) San Antonia - N

(9) Dallas - Y

(10) Detroit - N

(11) San Jose - N

(12) Indianapolis - N/A

(13) San Francisco - N

(14) Jacksonville, FL - N/A

(15) Baltimore - N

(16) Columbus, OH - N

(17) El Paso - N/A

(18) Memphis - Y

(19) Milwaukee - N

(20) Boston - N/A

(21) Washington D.C. - Y

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Telecommunications

(1) New York - Y (2) Los Angeles - N

(3) Chicago - Y

(4) Houston - Y

(5) Philidelphia - Y

(6) San Diego - Y

(7) Phoenix - N

(8) San Antonia - Y

(9) Dallas - Y

(10) Detroit - N

(11) San Jose - N

(12) Indianapolis - Y

(13) San Francisco - N

(14) Jacksonville, FL - N

(15) Baltimore - N

(16) Columbus, OH - N/A

(17) El Paso - N/A

(18) Memphis - Y

(19) Milwaukee - Y

(20) Boston - Y

(21) Washington D.C. - N

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Emergency Services

(1) New York - N (2) Los Angeles - N

(3) Chicago - N

(4) Houston - N

(5) Philidelphia - Y

(6) San Diego - N

(7) Phoenix - N

(8) San Antonia - Y

(9) Dallas - Y

(10) Detroit - N

(11) San Jose - N

(12) Indianapolis - N

(13) San Francisco - N

(14) Jacksonville, FL - N

(15) Baltimore - N

(16) Columbus, OH - N

(17) El Paso - N

(18) Memphis - N

(19) Milwaukee - N

(20) Boston - Y

(21) Washington D.C. - Y

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Hospitals/Healthcare Facilities

(1) New York - N (2) Los Angeles - N/A

(3) Chicago - N/A

(4) Houston - Y

(5) Philidelphia - N/A

(6) San Diego - N/A

(7) Phoenix - N/A

(8) San Antonia - N/A

(9) Dallas - N/A

(10) Detroit - N/A

(11) San Jose - N/A

(12) Indianapolis - N/A

(13) San Francisco - N

(14) Jacksonville, FL - N/A

(15) Baltimore - N

(16) Columbus, OH - N

(17) El Paso - N/A

(18) Memphis - N/A

(19) Milwaukee - N/A

(20) Boston - N/A

(21) Washington D.C. - Y

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Transportation

(1) New York - Y (2) Los Angeles - Y

(3) Chicago - N

(4) Houston - Y

(5) Philidelphia - Y

(6) San Diego - Y

(7) Phoenix - Y

(8) San Antonia - Y

(9) Dallas - Y

(10) Detroit - N

(11) San Jose - N

(12) Indianapolis - Y

(13) San Francisco - N

(14) Jacksonville, FL - Y

(15) Baltimore - N

(16) Columbus, OH - N

(17) El Paso - Y

(18) Memphis - Y

(19) Milwaukee - Y

(20) Boston - Y

(21) Washington D.C. - Y

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Public Buildings

(1) New York - Y (2) Los Angeles - N

(3) Chicago - N

(4) Houston - Y

(5) Philidelphia - Y

(6) San Diego - N

(7) Phoenix - N

(8) San Antonia - Y

(9) Dallas - Y

(10) Detroit - N

(11) San Jose - Y

(12) Indianapolis - Y

(13) San Francisco - N

(14) Jacksonville, FL - N

(15) Baltimore - N

(16) Columbus, OH - N

(17) El Paso - N

(18) Memphis - Y

(19) Milwaukee - N

(20) Boston - Y

(21) Washington D.C. - N

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City Government Services

(1) New York - Y (2) Los Angeles - Y

(3) Chicago - N

(4) Houston - Y

(5) Philidelphia - N

(6) San Diego - Y

(7) Phoenix - Y

(8) San Antonia - N

(9) Dallas - Y

(10) Detroit - Y

(11) San Jose - N/A

(12) Indianapolis - N/A

(13) San Francisco - N

(14) Jacksonville, FL - N

(15) Baltimore - N

(16) Columbus, OH - N

(17) El Paso - N

(18) Memphis - Y

(19) Milwaukee - N

(20) Boston - Y

(21) Washington D.C. - N

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more to follow...

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


bold off, dagnabbit!

-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.

forgot this...

This estimate exludes San Jose's city-owned telecommunications equipment, which is currently being assesed. City officials stated that until this assessment is completed at the end of July, the city could not estimate when these systems would be Y2k ready.

anyone heard any news about those systems or if the assessment was indeed finished in July?

Mike

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


Diane, Mac... all other Cali residents...

we better make a run for the North : )

Mike

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-- Michael Taylor (mtdesign3@aol.com), August 23, 1999.


Bold off.

-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), August 23, 1999.

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