y2k In the next several months is going to place many of us in a very undesirable situation concerning adhering to local laws or breaking some of them for the safety and survival of our families.

# 1 local authorities have been briefed on how severe y2k will be. I know in my town Huntington beach ca I have talked to emergency ops people they Get It, they know y2k is going to be real bad and are preparing as quietly and as hard as they can to be ready to deal with the fallout my prayers are with them.

Why hasnt our congress suspend all city ordinaces concerning the raising of food for an emergency y2k period of 2 years. Because they have already sacrificed the U.S public. They will be in bunkers and emerge after the military restores order in 2002. They dont want us to make it. There actions speak louder than words. They have been briefed in t/s meetings that big industry's remediation has failed. they know every body cant make it.

Its like the movie Deep Impact, when they know there is nothing they can to stop the comet from taking out a bunch of people. Only the select few will get bunker priverlage the rest are on their own. What does this mean to the averge john and jane Q public. The safety of your familiy is the resposiblity that God intrusted you with. If zoning doesnt allow chickens tell them tough shit get off my property.

As a Sovereign citzen of the republic called the U.S under the Consititution that no entiy of the Govt shall create a law that denies you your right to life liberty and the presuit of happiness. I know if I could not eat I would not be happy. (case for the Stitts Farm) y2k will definitely break the J.I.T. supply chain. that town board and Judge are now operating outside the consititution. We all are at risk, because local Judges are all operating outside the Consititution under a corporatized federized legal system. Since you have taxation without just legal representation you are not oblieged to surrender your property,your rights or your children to an unconstitutional court.

To the Stitts and any others who are facing legal problems under this system of Govt. You have the right to bring the matter before a Cositutional Common law Court and jury of your piers, and have proper legal representation. If they cant provide this for you they are violating your consitutional and civil rights. To non custodial parents the safety of your kids is first. If the custodial parent is not preparing and wont talk to you about this grave life threating y2k issue be prepared to save your childrens lives if the infrastructure breaks. Remeber lot's wife in the bible dont look back. remember those fleeing the holocost in Germany in the 1930's. these people saw trouble happening and got out of dodge quick.

Be prepared to move that quick if social order breaks down. the safety of your kids over custody rights precedence. If their are not alert as to what is comming down do the best you can. Y2k may be a war or depression but certainly not just a bump. I wish it would be a non event but it wont. commit all your plans to the Lord and you will succeed. I pray for those who will be forced to break some minor laws in order to protect their children that God gives you peace in your heart concerning your tough decisions. God bless you.

-- y2k aware mike (y2k aware mike @ conservation . com), August 15, 1999

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wow mike you mentioned GOD delete-time.no wonder this country is doomed.

-- BYE,BYE, AMERICAN PIE. (dogs@zianet.com), August 15, 1999.

christian,s in china-africa-muslim countries-india-many places, are being tortured-murdered for thier faith.& in good old u.s.a. GOD is mocked. has GOD removed his hand of protection from america? the line is being drawn in the sand.y2k=separation-time.in many way,s.if GOD punished HIS chosen people=israel---what will HE do with the adopted?? ***A LESSON IN RESPECT--IS ON THE HORIZEN***

-- GOD bless america?? (dogs@zianet.com), August 15, 1999.

post that post----next year at this--time.

-- flame resistant. (dogs@zianet.com), August 15, 1999.

the only HOPE FOR THIS COUNTRY=OLD FASHIONED>>REPENTANCE.A CHANGE OF HEART & direction.we,ve sown to the wind & are REAPING a whirlwind. EXPLANATION=we,ve cast off restraint.we think we,re free, but we are slaves.

-- 1 who see,s. (dogs@zianet.com), August 15, 1999.

Mike, better get that spell check fixed.

Yan, are you sure? Our temperature reached 106 degrees last week, what about cooked brains?

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), August 15, 1999.

Sorry Mike. I hate it when the 'Spelling Fairy' crawls out from under the rug. (you need to straighten your tu-tu, fairy word mother)

The problem of City ordinances which were meant to be observed under 'normal' circumstances is a problem. Victory gardens were encouraged by the gov as a means of solving a problem in an 'unusual' circumstance. It's rather hard to deny a problem when you're being bombed by the enemy. Y2K is entrenched in denial. We have the perfect opportunity to prepare ahead of time, but most will wait until it's too late to make any coherent, organized, effective preparations. Apparently our government prefers people running around like ants in a blazing hill, if it will save the banking system.

Even though the world was apparently cooked in Deep Impact....you must acknowledge the courage and honesty in which *that* President stood up to the microphone. Too bad *we* have a worm sitting behind the Oval Office desk. You could split him in half and he'd just crawl off in different directions and then you'd have two of him to worry about!

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 15, 1999.

"the only HOPE FOR THIS COUNTRY=OLD FASHIONED>>REPENTANCE.A CHANGE OF HEART & direction.we,ve sown to the wind & are REAPING a whirlwind. EXPLANATION=we,ve cast off restraint.we think we,re free, but we are slaves. "

For what it's worth, I agree with that statement. And I believe it is as On Topic as it gets. The root of the problems that lie before us (y2k, war, terrorism, etc. etc.) is spiritual. This nation is about to pay a heavy price for our pride and sinfulness. Physical preps are vitally important but personal repentance is also essential--otherwise we've missed the mark.

Sorry if this is supposed to be on another discussion board, but I do believe the man is speaking truth, as offensive as some may find it.

And by the way, I agree with Y2k Aware Mike too

have a nice day :)

herrick Kimball

-- H Kimball (herrickkimball@sprintmail.com), August 15, 1999.

Amen Herrick.

And until they officially disband the Constitution for mass toilet paper, and while it still has some power, keep these numbes handy if you happen to run into legal trouble as you act on your convictions both spiritual and practical:

The Christian Law Association:

(727) 399-8300

FAX: (727) 398-3907

E-Mail: DavidGibbs@ChristianLaw.org

P.O. Box 4010 Seminole, FL 33775-4010

Please forward this to the Stitts, I shall post this on the "Initial" thread you started in case the Stitts happen to see this there.

Thanks again Stan.

Also please let them know I've alerted our local congregations here about their situation and we're all praying about it.

-INVAR

-- INVAR (gundark@sw.net), August 15, 1999.

Thanks for the numbers Invar, I'm praying for the stitts family also and I am going to see what finanical help we can send them. When liberty is stolen for one family we all lose. Times are a changing. God's judgement on our nation is coming. Those in power have not been good stewards of this nation.

-- y2k aware mike (y2k aware mike @ conservation . com), August 15, 1999.

"The time has come, or is about to come, when only large-scale civil disobedience, which should be nonviolent, can save the populations from the universal death which their governments are preparing for them." Bertrand Russell

-- philoso (philoso@philosoo.com), August 15, 1999.

The solution to this sort of crap can be found in the book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. (do a search on Amazon Books or Loompanics -- http://www.amazon.com or http://www.loompanics.com)

One doesn't have to be a Christian wacko to have many of the same concerns and GI (get it) re both Y2K and our fascist government.

-- A (A@AisA.com), August 15, 1999.

Will continue said: "Too bad *we* have a worm sitting behind the Oval Office desk. You could split him in half and he'd just crawl off in different directions and then you'd have two of him to worry about!

I nominate that for "zinger of the day!"

-- A (A@AisA.com), August 15, 1999.

Hey 'A',

All us "Christian Whackos" love you too!

JJ

-- Jeremiah Jetson (laterthan@uthink.y2k), August 15, 1999.

Some also refer to it as the "Oral Office"....

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 15, 1999.

I gotta tell ya A, I don't give a monkey's rump what anyone's religious beliefs are....if we let this Country go down the crapper, all of our religious views will become dictated. Let's not allow that to happen, OK?

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), August 16, 1999.