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Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 10:44 AM >Subject: Re: MOSSAD: How & Why JFK Jr. Was Crashed > > >>> >>> MOSSAD: How & WHY JFK Jr. WAS CRASHED >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> Aug. 7, 1999 >>> >>> Texe Marrs, in his weekly shortwave radio show, tonight, >>> Aug 7th, reports that a bomb exploded in the tail section of >>> John F. Kennedy's airplane. The show, POWER OF PROPHECY, >>> is broadcast over 5.070 megahertz shortwave at 8 PM EST. >>> Here is an excerpt, transcribed from the tape recording >>> that I made of the broadcast: >>> >>> TEXE MARRS [www.texemarrs.com]: >>> I'm already getting reports. One comes from a retired U.S. >>> Navy captain who has done an analysis of what really happened. >>> Other reports are from my Air Force pilot friends. >>> It appears that this is what happened: >>> >>> John F. Kennedy took off in his Piper, with the two ladies >>> aboard. They flew first about 5,700 feet up. And then, as >>> they approached Martha's Vineyard, he began to descend. >>> When he got to an altitude of about 2,400 feet, there was >>> an explosion in the back compartment, blowing off part of >>> the airplane. He was unable to maintain control, and the >>> airplane spiraled downward in a graveyard spin. >>> Some people said that he made a pilot error. But, in fact, >>> if the plane had been in good shape, all that would have >>> been necessary would have been for him to push one switch, >>> and the plane would have gone on automatic pilot. >>> And the plane could even have LANDED ITSELF, with the >>> computers and the engineering that it had onboard. >>> ONE SWITCH is all that he needed to have taken care of. >>> But he couldn't! The plane was uncontrollable. >>> A bomb had gone off. THAT is why Lauren Bessette's >>> suitcase had been FLUNG out of the airplane, and was >>> found miles away. As a matter of fact, as I make this >>> report today, it just came out that there was GOOD >>> WEATHER! The bad weather was eight miles away. >>> There was NO haze at the time! There was NO fog! >>> There was NO reason why he couldn't see the approach >>> landing as he was coming down, piloting that aircraft. >>> As a matter of fact, they have now recovered the >>> engine of that aircraft, and the FAA report -- >>> my sources tell me -- stated that the engine was in >>> GOOD condition, and running. >>> There was a bomb. It was assassination. >>> This is Texe Marrs. You've been listening to this >>> exclusive report: "TRIPLE MURDER AT MARTHA'S VINEYARD". >>> [END OF EXCERPT] >>> >>> Texe Marrs went on to say that John F. Kennedy Jr. had >>> done a thirteen-page expos'e on the assassination of >>> Israeli Prime Minister Rabin, who wasn't moving fast >>> enough to fulfill the New World Order's plans for >>> so-called "peace in the Middle East". Now, according >>> to an article in the Jerusalem Post, "Bill Clinton >>> could start reaping the rewards for his work of >>> putting Barak in place" as prime minister, and ousting >>> Netanyahu. What I.O.U.'s could Bill and wife Hillary >>> have wanted to cash in? Well, Hillary was obviously >>> intending to run for the seat of retiring U.S. Senator >>> Daniel Moynihan, of the State of New York. But, Texe >>> Marrs reports, John F. Kennedy Jr. had been approached >>> by the powerful men who run the New York State >>> Democratic Party machine, and these men had offered >>> to back John F. Kennedy Jr. in the campaign for that >>> U.S. Senate seat. Additionally, JFK Jr. had strong >>> support from the Orthodox Jewish faction in Israel, >>> which was and is in fierce competition with the >>> liberal Jewish faction, the latter being >>> supported by President Bill and Co-President >>> Hillary Clinton. Bill and Hillary were cashing >>> in their I.O.U. by getting Prime Minister Barak, >>> who was COINCIDENTALLY visiting the Clinton White >>> House during the week that John F. Kennedy's plane >>> had crashed (was it before or after; I don't know) >>> ... by getting Barak and his faction of the Israeli >>> spy agency, the Mossad, to create the accidental >>> plane crash of the man who was a threat to the >>> liberal faction in Israel. This liberal Israeli >>> faction is and has been in a power struggle with >>> the Orthodox Jewish faction who want no part of >>> the Middle East Peace Plan. The Orthodox Jewish >>> faction had, some few weeks before the plane crash, >>> met with John F. Kennedy Jr. in Canada, and had >>> agreed to finance his sagging GEORGE Magazine >>> business. MOREOVER, Texe Marrs reports that, on >>> Labor Day, a symbolically opportune holiday for >>> the Democratic Party, John F. Kennedy was going to >>> announce his candidacy for the U.S. Senate seat >>> from the State of New York. Again, he had solid >>> backing from the Wagner clan and the other power >>> brokers who control the state Democratic party. >>> These people were offended that Hillary, on the >>> outs with them, would dare to seize upon the >>> Senate seat that they owned. This Hillary factor >>> appears to be the major reason why the New York >>> power clique wanted to launch JFK Jr. He was on >>> their side all the way. His uncle, Robert F. >>> Kennedy, had been a U.S. Senator from New York. >>> And so, the wheels were set in motion to put >>> the brakes on John F. Kennedy Jr. before he >>> could announce his candidacy to the world, >>> for the task of his demise would have been >>> EXTREMELY problematic had they waited until >>> the American people would be awakened to the >>> reality that Kennedys are ALWAYS killed when >>> they set their sights on the White House. >>> I liked JFK, and I liked his son. He was always >>> John-John in my memories. One final thing. >>> Texe Marrs also reports that JFK Jr. was >>> about to meet with high-level Mossad officers >>> on the subject of the Rabin assassination. >>> I surmise that this was the Mossad faction >>> siding with the Orthodox Jewish political >>> faction who see their nation in deep danger >>> of being taken over by the masters of the >>> New World Order. There is a power struggle >>> in motion which reaches from Washington to >>> Tel Aviv. And the liberal faction of the >>> Mossad seems to have been the dagger that >>> was just flashed in the night. >>> >>> John DiNardo >>>FYI >> > >
-- Mumsie (Shezdremn@aol.com), August 11, 1999
What an amazing rant. Conspiracy theories just get more insane every day.
-- Mr Conspiracy (MrConspiracy@whodunit.com), August 11, 1999.
Hi Mr. Conspiracy, just read this on the Jeff Rense website. Still think this is interesting. After all, his father and uncle didn't die from spontaneous combustion.
JFK Jr. SkyFlash Reporter Unapproachable By John DiNardo
8-9-99 I just phoned the Martha's Vineyard Gazette and spoke with a woman there. I asked her about the statement -- in the July 17th United Press International report of the John F. Kennedy Jr. plane crash http://www.upi.com/corp/news/jfkjr3.html -- that a reporter for the Martha's Vineyard Gazette had witnessed an explosion in the sky around the time of the crash. She replied, "Oh, that story was completely bogus. What really happened was that someone was shooting off fireworks on Falmouth." "Falmouth?" I said, "Is that an island?" "Falmouth," she said, "is the closest point to Martha's Vineyard." I said, "But this reporter witnessed an explosion in the SKY." She countered, "Well, they were shooting rockets up in the air, or something like that." Fearing that she might hang up if I continued to contradict her, I asked, "May I speak with the reporter who witnessed this?" "Oh, no," she replied nervously, "we can't do that." I said, "Oh, that's strange. What could be the problem with speaking to a reporter?" She repeated, "We can't permit that." I said, "Okay, can you at least give me his name?" "No, we can't do that, either," she persisted." Then she added, "He no longer works for us," almost as if she were making it up, just to get me to give up. Then when I responded with a surprised "Ohhh", she suddenly realized that her comment had made matters worse and, in a jolt of vexation, she sputtered, "Oh, no, no! It has nothing to do with that incident. He went back to school." "Oh," I said, "so is he a journalism student?" After an answerless pause, I thanked her and said goodbye. I think she was relieved. What do you make of this, folks? What questions would you have asked if you had called the Martha's Vineyard Gazette, at (508)627-4311? Would you have asked if the reason why the UPI quote (of his statement that he saw a "big white flash" in the sky off Philbin Beach at about the time of the crash) was expunged from ALL subsequent news reports from ALL news outlets was because this reporter had personally called United Press International and told them that he had made a mistake -- that the "big white flash" he saw in the sky off Philbin Beach at about the time of the crash was REALLY caused by someone shooting rockets into the air from Falmouth? And if he would have ever made such an absurd retraction, then how is it that no other news outlet ANYWHERE has, after July 17th, repeated the reporter's sighting ANYWAY, considering that news outlets feed off of one another (e.g. WCVB-TV said this, and UPI said this, and so on)? How is it that this media magical disappearing act could have been pulled off so neatly, without ONE SINGLE news outlet breaking the code of silence? And so, we come, full circle, to that unnamed, unidentifiable, unapproachable reporter: the unreporting reporter. If his retraction was so widely recognized throughout all the cutting rooms of mass medialand ... then why in the hell can NO ONE be allowed to speak with him, much less, even find out his name? And how does the Vineyard Gazette KNOW that its reporter definitely saw fireworks off of Falmouth, and not a "big white flash" off of Philbin Beach? Did the reporter later reflect on his sighting, replay his mental videotape, and say to himself, "Gee, that wasn't a big white flash in the sky off of Philbin Beach. It was rockets shooting up in the air off of Falmouth." Is that how the human mind functions? You just go back and replay the tape in your head, and see what actually happened? Or, did someone ELSE tell the Vineyard Gazette that the reporter saw fireworks off of Falmouth at around the time of the Kennedy plane's plunge into the ocean? -- and that they had better stick to that story! Furthermore, did you ever hear of anyone going "back to school" before August 5th (the date of my phone call to the Gazette)? Doesn't school start in September? And furthermore still -- someone notified me that Falmouth is in the opposite direction from Philbin Beach. The UPI report indeed stated that the Vineyard Gazette reporter sighted the "big white flash" off of Philbin Beach. Well, that's easy enough to check out. Is Philbin Beach near the line-of-sight of Falmouth? Would you check it out for me and let me know? Thanks. John DiNardo email@example.com
-- Mumsie (Shezdremn@aol.com), August 11, 1999.
why is this stuff even being posted on here???
-- lou (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 11, 1999.
No.. it has nothing to do with Y2K. But here is the original statement about the reporter:
"A reporter for the Vineyard Gazette newspaper told WCVB-TV in Boston that he was out walking Friday night about the time of the crash and saw "big white flash in the sky" off Philbin Beach." This from: Sunday, 18 July 1999 2:08 (GMT) (UPI Focus)
And.. as far as I know the reporter is not the only "unnamed, unidentifiable, unapproachable" person in this case. Kennedy's flight instructor is in that catagory also.
-- Linda (email@example.com), August 11, 1999.
JFK, Jr, *FU*! Plain and simply put. There's no conspiracy, no one wanted to kill him, he just made some stupid miscalculations about his ability to fly an airplane he was not familiar with. Now, let's just get on with Y2K and how to survive it, I'm sure we're all more smarter than JFK, Jr.
-- bardou (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 11, 1999.
Yes, I'm sure we all are alot "more smarter" too! :-)
-- Roland (email@example.com), August 11, 1999.
Since the title was labeled "OT" (Off Topic) - anybody who doesn't want to look can stay off the thread.
He (the original radio announcer) is entitled to his opinion - but he is also "entitled" to be wrong. the pilot who went to same airport only 15 minutes before told Newsweek that it was completely invisible - no airport, no house lights, no ocean, no horizon.
All motion of the aircraft is consistent with a new pilot not quailified in struments literally trying to fly by the "seat of his pants" - using internal motion clues rather than his instruments.
The final decent rate was too fast to recover - and his altitude at the time he could have turned on the autopilot was too low to let the autopilot (assuming it could have recovered) go through the twists and turns needed to pull up the aircraft. All this assumes he had flipped the autopilot on, or recognized the autopilot could be used.
NO pilot I've spoke to or listened to who has discussed this crash has ever mentioned turning on the autopilot, and NONE of these pilots has ever suggested that it was anything but pilot error.
He should have turned back - before he lost control.
-- Robert A. Cook, PE (Kennesaw, GA) (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 11, 1999.
It could have been that JFK Jr. "drove" his plane into the ocean.
It could have been that "someone" didn't want JFK Jr. intruding into what Hillary now regards as her "turf" (the NY Senate seat.)
How this applies to Y2K is that we don't know which of the two possibilities (or many others) is the truth. And we will never know. If there really was a bomb on JFK Jr's plane, do you really think YOUR government is going to tell you the truth? Do you really think YOUR government is going to tell you the truth about Y2K? About the fragility of our money, credit, and banking system. About the fraud of the IRS (http://goodbiz.com/tbks/)? About it's real agenda in the drug war and for gun control? About .....?
-- A (A@AisA.com), August 11, 1999.
When you look at the history of the Kennedy clan it is somewhat natural to conjure up a conspiricy theory or two regarding the JFK Jr. incident. However, when you consider the massive number of people involved in the S&R it doesn't seem possible that an onboard explosion would go unreported. But then, I personally believe we have never heard the truth behind his father's assasination. As Jack Nicholson stated in 'A Few Good Men', we "can't handle the truth". Guess what? We can't handle the lies too well either!
-- For (email@example.com), August 11, 1999.
When are you people going to realize there are aliens controlling everything that goes on? What does it take to get through to you? The Kennedys are being eliminated because of what they know! The only possible explanation is the aliens!
-- xyz (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 11, 1999.
-- link (email@example.com), August 11, 1999.
-- link (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 11, 1999.
More Conspiracy Stuff
-- link (email@example.com), August 11, 1999.
Things change. Once while flying to another state with a friend, we were caught in a severe storm--lighting, hail, high winds and rain. My friend had checked the weather and the storm was not due to come in until late the next day. But sometimes weather conditions change rapidly and dramatically. It was terrifying until we made it to the nearest airport.
-- gilda (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 11, 1999.
Forgot something. Although I don't think there was a conspiracy, I too think it is very strange that absolutely nothing was ever heard about this report and reporter again. For I too heard the announcement of what he said he had seen. I can't believe a reporter would like about something that important just to be self-important. He would be found out and end up in a heap of trouble just like what's his name that said the same thing about the jet that crashed in the same area.
-- gilda (email@example.com), August 11, 1999.
nope! he's still alive!! i've seen him!! and elvis too!!!
-- eddy (firstname.lastname@example.org), August 12, 1999.
While I'm inclined to dismiss this completely, I have one nagging thought.
Do you remember the overwhelming efforts to recover the wreckage?
I remember thinking that there sure was an urgent effort to contain the area and use whatever resources were required to remove the debris. I remember the President's explanation, blah, blah, blah
Makes me wonder...
Nothing that traitor is capable of would surprise me but I am skeptical here, if only because otherwise I'd be completely certifiable.
-- tangbang (email@example.com), August 12, 1999.