On "adult" prep items and issues

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I haven't seen this addressed here before. I'm wondering about this topic come Y2K. You KNOW this will come up (no pun intended) if there are shortages (DENINITELY no pun intended) come Y2K. What are the prep items to be sure you have? What are the scenarios you would and would not risk entertaining some new friend that might be dangerous in some way? I'm not just talking about condoms and HIV!

Say you hear a knock on the door. It's some georgeous creature who is very tired, cold, hungry and lonely. They want to "barter" with you. What with human treachery and all, how do you know that after they #$%@#! you're brains out and excuse themselves to go to the bathroom that they won't just open the door so their "friends" can help themselves to you and your stuff?

Does one insist on "barter" only if the other person is wearing a pair of handcuffs and a blindfold? Hey, I've had marriage proposals from my partners who enjoy wearing handcuffs! Here, I'm talking about personal protection, not mutual fantasy games. Seriously, how WOULD you protect yourself and your bartering inventory? What should your personal conditions of bartering be? And I don't mean just the exchange rate! Please keep it this side of DELETE, please, for our mutual benefit. Wouldn't want the moderators to delete this before I read your answer!

How about the risk of going to sleep around a new found friend? What if YOU'RE the one wanting to barter, and they want to tie YOU up so you don't do them in? Do you let them? Wouldn't want a night of "barter" to turn into a long term relationship -- although most of the women I've dated would (at least with me)! You know these are going to be real concerns if TSHTF.

What about V.D. when there is no M.D. I've never had it. But I've heard it's an itch I wouldn't want to scratch!

What about hygeine concern the day after in your bunker with no nice shower? And the day after and the day after and the day after if your compatible (or just lonely, then luck knocks at your door)!

What are the concerns and issues you see arising come Y2K? Any special preps or changes in your game plan this topic brings up? And I don't mean jsut get a feather to go with your cuffs and blindfold or get an airbed since it's easier to wash off. Although a four poster would lend itself to keeping things tied down so you could sleep soundly, wouldn't it?

While the above is asked in all sincerety, I MUST ask King of Spain, don't you think jello would be much better than mud, since you can eat it afterwards?

-- Master (JustaGuy@guess.who), August 05, 1999

Answers

My husband says that he had the same fantasy when he was 14.

-- Mabel Dodge (cynical@me.net), August 05, 1999.

JustaGuy: Take matters into your own hand and you won't have to worry about such things now will you? And as far as King of Spain is concerned, it's a waste of water to make mud just to wrestle in. I suggest those who are worried about it, stock up on the best lubricant you can find, even motor oil will work in a pinch - no pun intended.

-- QueenofSpain (QueenofSpain@QueenofSpain.com), August 06, 1999.

Storing lots of baby wipes is a must.

-- you'll be too tired (for@this.activity), August 06, 1999.

This has GOT to be Midwest Mike.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), August 06, 1999.

Carlos,

Your close in geography, but I'm not Mike. I'm not trying to play a guessing game. Nor do I mean to ruffle anybody's feathers. I'm really interested in some honest replies. Baby wipes are a good idea!

To the two ladies who posted before you, the stuff on cuffs is more a fantasy of my partners that I fulfill for them, since they know I'm very loving and would never hurt them. I just used it to paint a picture; to encourage honest ideas and feedback.

FWIW, at least to me, a submissive partner is in no way demeaned or mistreated. A partner is to be loved, cherished and treated like gold. Even a spanking is given in a loving maner. Because they enjoy it!!

-- Master (JustaGuy@guess.who), August 06, 1999.



"A partner is to be loved, cherished and treated like gold"

What you mean buried or hidden "somewhere" in the house...

One thing I can guarantee - the oldest profession will thrive, and do you recall the prohibition?

stock up on booze and fags!!!

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), August 06, 1999.


If you sleep around you deserve to contract any disease that comes your way. I wouldn't sleep with anyone but my husband and if something happened to him, then sex wouldn't matter to me anymore. So I advise you to go jerk off in the corner and be content with that.

-- nononsensechick (nononsensechick@nononsensechick.com), August 06, 1999.

It's not worth the complications of infectious diseases and no easy access to working medical care. Self-control is a better option. For self-cleaning, stock up new clean spray bottles and have fragrant non-toxic body shampoo to put in, dilute, and spray. Stock sponges and Sterno for heating water and giving "bed" baths. There's hygiene threads in the archives somewhere.

Guys may have these fantasies but women fear and loathe filth and unwashed odors and festerings. Doubt many women will be in any mood to "barter" and will be aware of these out-of-place male drives and thus will pack arms and ammo.

-- janeGI (stocked@locked.loaded), August 06, 1999.


Fooled again~~~ Shaking my head. This fool is fgetting off (pun intended) on talking slave/master S/M etc. In a stress/survival situation your libedo tends to be a much lower priority than the basics. When there are sexual relationships they tend to be more intense and built with deeper and stronger emotions due to the survival instinct. Anyone who wants what that fool above wants, makes me think of a rapist.

-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), August 06, 1999.

And you find the idea of a woman starving to death who is willing to have sex with you in return for food exciting?

You are either a troll (and one of our sicker ones)or a sexual psychopath. Take your little Story of O fantasies someplace else.

Chuck - Please delete this crap

-- RUOK (RUOK@yesiam.com), August 06, 1999.



I'm going to stock up on vaseline! A great Y2K bartering item!

-- y2k ready (y2kready@aol.com), August 06, 1999.

unfortunately this sleazy anticipation is not off-topic
many boys have probably been itching to talk about this
women be forewarned and prepare accordingly

-- ordering a chastity belt (keep@men.away), August 06, 1999.

Not relevant to me...happily married, and don't need the aditional problems (VD, divorce, jealousy especially of her bodybuilding boyfriend/husband) that this type of activity would engender.

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), August 06, 1999.

Lots of shavers/razors (Bic, Gillette, etc.) Shaved pubes don't hid crabs.

-- A (A@AisA.com), August 06, 1999.

NO it is NOT off topic!

AS a matter of fact, if you have a significant other (guys) or are likely to be in the company of someone platonically, have you considered the likelihood of said sig other or copmpanion haveing to deal with a rape? Does your bug out bag contain at LEAST 10 BC pills to cover that little gem of a scenario???

Asked by Mrs Driver in the middle of a bug out discussion.

sobered up a lot of us, REAL FAST.

THIS is why it is NOT off topic.

Chuck

-- Chuck, a night driver (rienzoo@en.com), August 06, 1999.



I went to the Salvation Army store today to buy I pair of handcuffs they had, but they'd just sold them. True story.

Andy, that was very funny.

A is A is A, I think your pube shaving idea is useful. I just need to know, what is the proper way to shave one's scrotum?, because I've tried it a few times here, and the results haven't been pretty. :~}

-- number six (Iam_not_a_number@hotmail.com), August 06, 1999.


I would not be interested in jello-wrestling--it's not vegetarian. Mud is not only vegetarian, it's vegan too.

-- Old Git (anon@spamproblems.com), August 06, 1999.

You should treat any stranger who comes to you as though they may have communicable disease(s). You should consider any stranger a threat until you've gotten to know him/her well. If you're the decent fellow you claim to be, you wouldn't be interested in sex with a starving woman -- she wouldn't be enjoying herself.

You should be concerned about diseases other than venereal ones. TB, Hepatitus A - H (?), impetigo, influenza, typhoid, and plague (the rat population will explode will all those dead bodies lying around). There are other diseases that will make a big re-entry into our lives, but I can't remember them.

-- shy ann (shy@really.shy), August 06, 1999.


I'm with most of the above. If you want sex, then jack off. If you let a strange woman into your home and give her your food, she'll simply blow your head off when you're not looking. Maybe she'll give you sex first, maybe not. Either way, you'll be dead.

-- (its@coming.soon), August 06, 1999.

Chuck, you are always making me think!

Husby & I have talked a little bit about this subject, but in regards to our daughter, who will be 13 soon. She's too young to worry about this stuff, right??? I WISH!!!

I hadn't thought about birth control for her. Just a shotgun for any potential 'him's. But you're right. I think a trip to the Doctor's is in her immediate future. I'm hoping to be able to talk to the doctor on the side, maybe get a prescription for me (for her).

Curses again on the lack of awareness in the Med community. I can't get it through our family man's head that trouble is coming. He just smiles and nods at me, and asks me if I'm taking my vitamins.

Ack. As if we didn't have enough to worry about.

Does anyone remember a thread last year about "The Caveman Effect"?

-- Arewyn (isitthatlate@lready.com), August 06, 1999.


Actually this time around it may come to--"The Cavewoman Effect".

This may be the perfect opportunity for The female species to take the upper hand. That is if you are cognizant of the de-evolving of the masculine physiology. Men seem to be ripe for the taking!

pencil necked,four eyed,fat,undisciplined,wimpy,sensitive,office workers with baby soft hands.

AMAZONS UNITE!!!!!

-- David Butts (dciinc@aol.com), August 06, 1999.


Hey,Master, In regards to the"#$%@#! your brains out" and then opening the door to friends, etc. that "gorgeous creature" just might! Hey! You pays your"money" and takes your chances! I think this is the true interpretation of that chimp dream I had, Leo. KOS, thanks for the heads up! Ha! Ladies, get ready for the devolutionary spiral!( I'm humoring but I am serious. ) PS Ragnar Benson, The Survivalist's Medicine Chest is an interesting book.

-- Barb (awaltrip@telepath.com), August 06, 1999.

My friend Spyder used to say: Never go to sleep first. (No telling what she'll do to you when you are asleep).

I prefer to only sleep with someone that I trust (and married)...not the casual individual who only wants you for what you possess.

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), August 06, 1999.


first,oral sex has the lowest transmission of std's Ya give a little,ya get a little. If god created aids to punish the wicked then he most certianly loves lesbians,they get aids less often than any other group.Second,your masturbation fantacy is an other great reason for everyone to train with firearms!!If someone wants a free meal from me post meltdown,fine,but they will have to deal with me frisking and disarming them while zoobiette holds a shot gun on them.Our house,our rules,weapons will be returned upon departure.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), August 06, 1999.

I'm quite dismayed by some of the post to this thread. I wish some were not so reactionary and quick to label with what does not apply. Also, I liked Zoobie's approach. That's the kind of though given to scenarios I was looking for. Also a few others.

For the record, let me say I never have nor ever would force myself on anyone. Nor am I advocating taking advantage of people. I guess I should have been more clear in my original post. I was thinking, OK, lets say the disruptions last for a long time. And I don't want to be celibate for however long (months, years?), and am not currently involved with a steady partner. How would I make sure someone else does not do me in? What should my operating policy be? Any additional preps I need to get, ect.?

Really folks, I don't want to belabor the point, but think a little education is in order. Lots of people like various "adult" scenarios like I mentioned. The kinkiest women I've dated have tended to be nurses, FWIW. Lots of professional women. Lots of very nice, decent, clean women. Not your bar fly types or others lower on someone's social scale. Those I know simply have different "taste" in their love lives. I'm NOT talking pathology or hurting people. What's wrong with MUTUAL -- THATS MUTUAL,CONSENTUAL activities between mature adults who are VERY compatible in the bedroom? I'm not looking for a debate or discussion here. I'm simply hoping that you won't in the future be so quick to label people who actually engage -- not fantasize -- in bedroom behavior that is outside the norm as "sick", pathological, or in any way shape or form as being even remotely like some crime of violence or opportunity against another human being.

The partner's I've had would shake their heads, "that's why I keep it under the covers, they just don't understand, they think I want to be abused or something, nothing could be farther from the truth, I just want to be as deeply and completedly loved and satisfied as I can be and by LIVING OUT my desires with a good hearted honest dominant, I can be". Please expand your awareness and acceptance for those not at your spot on the human spectrum of desires, rather than labeling and belittling. Thank you.

-- Master (JustaGuy@guess.who), August 06, 1999.


A is A is A, I think your pube shaving idea is useful. I just need to know, what is the proper way to shave one's scrotum?, because I've tried it a few times here, and the results haven't been pretty. :~}

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-- Dieter (questions@toask.com), August 06, 1999.


"Master", indeed. Its interesting to note that, reading through the responeses here, its the women who immediately saw through this s/m type crap, while the guys just blindly thought it was legit. This is not to say that some good issues did not come up (a la zoobie, for example), but the backdrop for it all was just another troll getting off.

There is one technical question that so far nobody has dealt with directly: mudwrestling versus jellowrestling (and, by extension, creamwrestling, as per the sensational video series "Catfights in Cream"). Let us just say that, like fine wine or classical music, being able to appreciate the exotic beauty of female mudwrestling is not for everyone, only those who have a more mature understanding of the world, and life, at large. Jello and cream are to mud what beer and the Dixie Chicks are to Beetoven's 9th.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 06, 1999.

King of Spain & Co.,

Your reply, and the thoughts it represents, are what my last post on this thread was speaking against.

Think for a minute. Seeing thru S&M "crap" indeed. Didn't I say mutual and consentual. And other similar things as well.

Think about this, all who have a negative, kneee jerk reaction to what other adults do in the privacy of their bunkers, I mean homes. At one time, and most of you might remember, oral sex was considered dirty, sick and pathological. Now it's considered "normal". Although the real point is lots of people are in both camps. That's the point. So how about not being so judgemental.

An even better illustration for all you supercillious types. At one time, the only generally accepted reason for humans to get it on was to have children. Love making just because you loved someone or just wanted to have a nice pleasureable time was BAD, SINFULL and PROBABLY AS LOOKED DOWN ON AS THOSE OF YOU LOOK DOWN ON KINKY FOLKS AND THEIR WAYS!!! How would you feel if your "normal", mutual and consentual activities, even with your spouse of 20 or 30 years was declared bad because you were not limiting yourself to the approved activites. I'm not going to get graphic by going into how bizarre and limiting these restrictions were in generations past, but they WERE severe. Even going so far in some circles as to declare unnecessary touching or deriving pleasure from the act of procreation to be immoral.

Rather than telling some of YOU to get a grip, I offer the above as food for thought. I hope some of you reconsider your narrow ways of labeling others. But I'll bet, unfortunately, that most of you will just continue to restate your small minded prejudices without considering the above points I've made. Unfortunately, there is way too little actual discussion on these threads. There seems to be too many simultaneous monologes from demogoges who close their minds to any other point of view other than what they currently hold. All I've got to say is it doesn't bode well for peoplele's reactions and behavior towards others in a Y2K crises if the "advanced" GIs hare are so closed, limited and labeling in their thoughts towards others. I fear that it's getting close to time for me to say goodby to lurking or posting. Hope all of you do well, and grow more considerate, compassionate and accepting of others who are different than you are. Who knows, you might even get in a lot fewer gun fights that way!

A Dominant, male Master who offers no appologies for his preferences,

Regards and regarding,

-- Master (JustaGuy@guess.who), August 06, 1999.


Aaaccckkkk! Is it Decker ????????

-- regards (regarding@regards.dd), August 06, 1999.

I fear that if y2k is a "10",feminism and women's rights in general will disappear,and forget about gay rights.A return to barbarism is imminant.But hey,how often does the millennium happen(don't answer that!)I'm glad I got in on all the hesteria,when will there be a greater zeitgheist?

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), August 06, 1999.

I only have one thing to say about this entire thread:

Monagamy is the best policy. IMHO.

scratchin'...

The Dog

-- Dog (Desert Dog@-sand.com), August 06, 1999.


number six,

Try using hot wax

-- Cherri (sams@brigadoon.com), August 06, 1999.


Cherri, I've often wondered about electrolysis.

-- Barb (awaltrip@telepath.com), August 06, 1999.

So far not very many sincere responses. I would have expected more from the ages quoted in surveys around here. I guess it's "culture creep", psychosocial age regression, or some such thing. How far away is junior high mentality I wonder. Too bad several people prefer to deal with whatever thoughts this subject generates for them with smart ass comments. I don't care to waste my time in any personal flaming or debates, so how about looking at this as an opportunity to "evolve" your thinking and "personal policy and plans", as suggested.

Being a loving dominant is simply one aspect of who I am. how about thinking some? Sexual behavior preferences are irrelevant for purposes of discussion on this topic, I'm thinking. My examples in my post were to get the thought process moving, not short circuit it by prejudices and false conceptions. Now try again.

A Loving Dominant with no appologies (and my partners have had nooooo complaints, so forget the abuse labels, the partners I've had would laugh at such drivel),

-- Master (JustaGuy@guess.who), August 06, 1999.


Why not try a dipillatory like Nair. Which reminds me of a joke.

A little old lady went to the vet with aproblem concerning her precious little Schnauzer doggie. It had a problem with a fungus in the ears, so the vet suggested that she keep the hair removed from the inside of the dog's ears to minimize the problem. So she tried pulling the hair and it caused such pain for the dog she went to the drug store for some Nair. The man behind the counter was kind enough to explain it's use to her telling her to use it full strength on her legs, and maybe dilute it a little for her underarms and face. Whereupon she asked, "What about on my Schnauzer?" Somewhat taken aback, he answered "Lady, you better dilute it about 3 to 1 down there!"

Gerald

-- Gerald R. Cox (grcox@internetwork.net), August 06, 1999.


To the originator of this thread,

One thing you need to realize about women: Fear of rape and kinky can't-wait men is deep and enduring. It's a Y2K fear too. So lighten up and realize your post gives the girls the eebie-jeebies. Women know men will use any excuse to take advantage of women in need. In wars the first thing that happens is the men go on rape binges.

You are in the wrong Forum for your fantasies. Y2K will not be a relaxed time for exploring "alternative" methods of domineering.

One thing this thread will do is get more women off the fence and into the gun stores.



-- he does not get it (nowisnot@the.time), August 06, 1999.


Master

What the hell kind of responses did you think you would get to a politely worded "Should I handcuff the hungry bitch while I bang her"? Why not just keep some of your silly slaves around for fun and games, since they are so enamored of you?

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yaho.com), August 06, 1999.


Dear he does not get it,

Thank you for your reply. Your post contained several excellent points. First, I probably do underestimate the fear factor. I've never been sexually attacked, never have thoughts of attacking others, and pretty much go where I want when I want without fear. It helps to get a gentle reminder now and then that many others are not of the same history. I hate the concept of someone forcing themselves on anybody. My "encounters" have ALL been TOTALLY consentual, with "safe words", ect. The feelings of my parteners of "what's coming next" have been of an erotic nature, not of some negative nature.

My partners already know their preferences, they often have found it difficult to find a LOVING dominant who treats them "just right" like I do. Again, thanks for the reminder about the fear element many hold.

Keep in mind this post was not some "fantasy game". If I wanted that, I would "play" in real life, not here -- and with a totally willing partner. I'm thinking from your reply that maybe my post was a good idea if it makes women think and get ready and protect themselves from those who would attack and force themselves on them. I think women going to the gun store is a great idea. That certianly doesn't bother me. I'm all for it. I just wouldn't want to be "bushwacked" by anyone, man or woman, come Y2K. Again, maybe reread my posts.

I also realize most posters here are married. For them, fine. It might not be an issue at all. I'm single at this time by choice. I'm not a priest or monk. Again, I'm not engaging in fantasies. Real life feels much better! I'm also not engaging in "hopefull thinking". I AM engaging in "personal policy development", per my above post I don't need to repeat here.

Please know that not every man, or kinky man, or dominant is a bad apple. The women I have known would tell you LOTS of good stuff about me; very little if any bad. Heck, a couple of months ago, I ran into a woman I went with four and a half YEARS ago. She told me she STILL thinks about me, including EVERY time she drives down the highway close to the condo complex where we used to meet. She VERY much wanted to get back together with me, but I declined, because I felt to do so would be to take advantage of her since she just wasn't the right one for me, and I KNEW she was hoping to get into a permanant relationship with me, where she could, in her words, serve me in every room of the house. It was all I could do to let her down gently without bruising her ego. Do I sound like some bad type of person?

My reason for including this example is to share that not all men are ready willing and able to take advantage of any woman they can . Some men DO think with their heart, as well as the head above their waist lines. Thanks again for your post. Best wishes to you. I've found pondering the points in your post beneficial. Continue, if you like.

A Loving Dominant,

-- Master (JustaGuy@guess.who), August 06, 1999.


Dear Uncle Deedah,

The reason I haven't kept a relationship going with prior partners is simple. I'm a romantic at heart. Looking for that one special woman to spend the rest of my life with. Those I've dated in the past were simply not the right ones. I didn't think it right to continue a relationship with a woman who thought I was right for her, when I realized she was not the right one for me. To do so would not have been right, in my opinion.

For the purpose of "unlabeling" your thinking, I hope, please know that none of the women I've dated who enjoyed being submissive were "silly". Some were VERY powerful, self assured, very accomplished women -- who just happened to be "liberated" enough to actually go after the kind of realationship THEY PERSONALLY desired in their heart of hearts that made them feel much more satisfied and content than their other "plain vanilla" relationships did. That's all. It really dismays me that most people think so negatively about women who happen to enjoy being submissive with their man. I certianly don't. Anyone lucky enough to actually KNOW the women I've been with would have the utmost in respect for them as a PERSON, not just as a "silly slave".

I won't bother addressing your negative portrayal of the situaltion I described. But DO think about this. As I mentioned in an above post, one's sexual behavior preferences are not relevant to the main issue of how to protect yourself. What about your "personal policy" of ANY contact with others post Y2K? Say you let ANYBODY in, feed them, let them spend the night in out of the cold, ect. How does one do so at a minimum risk to oneself? Your comments and suggestions along this line would be appreciated. I don't live in a duplex. Don't have a separate "safe room" in my house, nor a room to lock anybody up in. Indeed the thought is repulsive to me; hence the issue; how to "barter" OR just "give", without getting robbed or killed for my trouble if Y2K is or stays bad for long?

Thoughts anyone?

A Loving Dominant,

-- Master (JustaGuy@Yahoo.com), August 06, 1999.


Get that vasectomy NOW!

-- (snip@snip.snip), August 06, 1999.

Say you let ANYBODY in, feed them, let them spend the night in out of the cold, ect. How does one do so at a minimum risk to oneself?

You don't. If you let them in and you have something they want, they will probably try to kill you. So don't let them in. End of problem.

-- (its@coming.soon), August 06, 1999.


I'm tellin ya Granny, that boy's pecker gonna get him in a heap o' trouble yet.

-- Jed (Clampet@B-Hills.com), August 06, 1999.

Here is an idea! Handcuff YOURSELF in the shower and slap your monkey with the other hand. You can be dominate, submissive AND prevent disease at the same time. Plus as an added bonus(no, bone yourself, not us)you can threaten not to feed your hand unless it " puts out".

-- Mrs. Hand (Master@bater.com), August 06, 1999.

Master, dear, I was merely cautioning you to be careful. I don't care if you do things your way. Why not find someone compatible right NOW?

-- shy ann (shy@really.shy), August 06, 1999.

FWIW,

The answers posted on this thread -- the good, the bad, and the ugly -- are, I suspect, probably representative of most people in general; i.e. relatively few still have both the ability and desire to actually carry on much in the way of civil discourse. Mostly, it's just "emotive reactionism". People seem to have a BUNCH of emotionally charged feelings about virtually everything discussed on this forumn -- or anywhere else for that matter. Their post seem more like the venting of their personal tea kettles rather than fair minded, sincere replies. Basically, if one uses words, images or some other "trigger" that relates to some latent feeling they have, they just react, blow off, spew and vent -- much like a tea kettle "just boiling, blowing off steam". Rather sad.

I don't know what the porportion is between those who lack the ABILITY to converse or write in a civil, thoughtful and curteous manner versus how many have the ABILITY, but lack the DESIRE. Maybe it simply IS a function of intelligence, character and civility -- none of which seems to be in abundance in our society these days -- nor on this forumn for that matter.

Saying this gives me no pleasure. I wish more people had the ability to carry on a good conversation, prefering instead the "brute satisfactions" of their emotive monologes, repeated the same old refrain ad nauseum, since the intellect required to refine their "emotives" lays largely unused, decaying from disuse.

Intelligence to note points made in a post, make distinctions, think without having to wade thru LOTS of emotional muck to -- and I hate to use this word -- articulate -- some comment or point of view in response. Sad.

Character to discourse respectfully, being fair minded and curteous to those one is speaking to. No, seems that insults and snide remarks, much like those used by class clowns, delinquent punks and just the mentally lame everywhere seem to be the prefered coin of the realm -- by both the person "blowing off" as well as the peanut gallery whose taste, if not ability, is quite evidently lacking in nature. Rather sad indeed.

Civility as to the level of simple respect and curtesy extended to the other person one is replying to. Sad indeed. How these portend poorly for how I expect those so described to behave towards their fellow humans post Y2K. Especially when they laughingly view themselves superior to those they are responding AT.

THINK ABOUT THIS PEOPLE, instead of just "emotively reacting", blowing off much like a tea kettle -- and change your tune! After all, a tea kettle has only one note. After a while it gets rather monotonous and irritating, not to mention mundane and boring -- much like straight vanilla, non-kinky sex, in my -- and my partners -- opinion. Sad, rather sad.

What concerns me most is my suspicion of how intractible this sad state of affairs probabaly is, due to the lack of intellectual ability to actually listen, reason and then respond in a more suitable fashion. I guess I had better renew my membership in Mensa or something. At least there the ABILITY exist!

No wonder we live in a society with so much spin, bias, and manipulative thrust into every area of our lives. Hey, it works! "They" have a receptive, obligingly responsive audience -- with votes to cast, money to give, support to lend, and consumer needs to satisfy at a profit. Human grist for their mills. Sad. And who calls who "sheeple" around here. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

I take no joy in noting these observations. No joy at all. I expect the post that follow this one, if any, will in no doubt be reeking of the "emotive reactionisms" of which I speak. How you "wag your own dogs", with such emotional, mentally lame, wagging of your own tounges.

Like puppets of your handlers, how you vainly overlook the realities of your dismal state, since prefering to feel you are all your own puper masters, pulling your own strings, gives the majority of you such deceptive comfort as you do the bidding of those crafting and provoking your emotional, reactionary "blowing off"; i.e your "masters".

How long, I wonder, before some of the "jewels" posting here start chanting DELETE, DELETE! We can't stand someone holding a mirror to us -- blow off some steam! That will at least fog up the mirror!

Like vampires hating a cross, how, I suspect, some of you probably hate me -- from just my words...and you don't even know me...and never will. Best wishes to you. May those with the ABILITY attain the DESIRE, lest you spend the remainder of your lives as puppets of your manipulative masters. All I care to do is hope for you; good luck.

A Loving, Dominant Master.



-- Master (JustaGuy@Yahoo.com), August 06, 1999.


How these portend poorly for how I expect those so described to behave towards their fellow humans post Y2K.

Which makes what I said above all the more true. Your answer should now be pretty clear.

-- (its@coming.soon), August 06, 1999.


One more thing. In my realm, submission from a woman to her Dominant is never something that is taken from her. It is something she willingly gives him, to hold in trust. In my realm, if she or I decide it's no longer desirous, it is returned, unharmed and untarnished, and she is "released". She is free to leave or stay as she wills. But if she stays, she does according to her Masters will -- which is always expressed within the limits of her submission which she has willingly given to her Master to hold in trust for them both.

I say this because I'm protective of my submisives -- even of the images others may hold of them. I think I've finished with this forumn. Not much need to visit here again. It no longer pleases me.

Good bye and best wishes one and all.

A Loving Dominant,

JustaGuy, AKA

-- Master (StLouisLouis@Yahoo.com), August 06, 1999.


I fear that if y2k is a "10",feminism and women's rights in general will disappear,and forget about gay rights.A return to barbarism is imminant.But hey,how often does the millennium happen(don't answer that!)I'm glad I got in on all the hesteria,when will there be a greater zeitgheist?

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), August 06, 1999.

If it's the end of feminism then it's also the end for four eyed geeks and little boys with delusional sexual fantasies. I'm afraid that if it's a 10 the big, beefy, buff and stupid will inheirit the earth. Is every guy here really an alpha male?

-- Mabel Dodge (cynical@me.net), August 06, 1999.


Number Six,

Electrolysis - ouch!

Hot wax - ouch!

Nair - ouch!

Stretch and flatten - ouch! - only Dieter aka slimfast could come up with that one...

You are left with only one alternative - unfortunately your voice will go up several octaves, you'll sound very much like Tiny Tim, would this work for you?

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), August 06, 1999.


Louis

Why not seek deep within yourself and discover why you feel led to discuss your sex life with strangers. It has been my experience that those of us with satisfactory sex lives tend not to run at the mouth about it. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

-- Uncle Deedah (unkeed@yahoo.com), August 06, 1999.


That "Master" sure sounds a lot like that "Zenmaster" dude that was wasting electrons last week on karma-sutra type stuff. Sure would be nice to see IP addresses posted, would answer a lot of questions on who is who.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), August 06, 1999.

Whoaaaaa...Uncky D, you have nailed it. Good eye, Sir!!

-- Now guess me! (Peek@boo.com), August 07, 1999.

Uncle D- Thank you for putting some closure on this. I have empathy for the guy, but come on, the answers to his questions are all too obvious. No need to go on and on here. Come to think of it, no matter what the question posted here, we all know the answer in our own hearts, don't we?

-- grngrl (jhandt@gte.net), August 07, 1999.

If you are in the habit of taking strange women into your home and having sex with them then you run the same risk now as you would after Y2k.

If any "gorgeous creatures" are wandering the streets post Y2k I doubt they will be knocking on the doors of men they have never met. On the other hand. Any guy with a stash of preps will suddenly be Hot Stuff - for as long as he can hold on to it.

Beans and rice - the aphrodesiacs of Y2k.

-- R (riversoma@aol.com), August 07, 1999.


Mabel Dodge:probably not big brutish men,but anyone with keen eyes and good shooting form.The best shots I've known have always been women.

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), August 07, 1999.

zoobie,

I was born & came of age in LA. One lesson I took to heart from some I knew from East LA is this -- it is the girls who gets one killed...and they rarely pull the trigger.

-- flora (***@__._), August 07, 1999.


Seems to me it would be best to "get together" with someone away from your house. Of course it the winter this might not be too comfortable! But it would keep your supplies safe and give either of you at least some chance to run away if the other became threatening.

-- biker (y2kbiker@worldnet.att.net), August 08, 1999.

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