Russians don't want us to see them press the button

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If I were going to run a suprise nuclear attack to take advantage of the Y2K bug chaos in the US come Jan 1/00 I sure wouldn't want the people I'm going to nuke to see the advance prep in my control center. Neither do the Russkies. Read on.

Moscow silent on US request for input Y2K missile center Jim Wolf, Reuters, 07/21/99

WASHINGTON - The United States has again asked Russia to join in minimizing the risk of a missile-launch misunderstanding at the height of Year 2000 computer uncertainties, the US Defense Department said yesterday

-- Please (Don't@peek.now), August 05, 1999

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If the Russians plan to attack the US, they will most likely do so before rollover occurs, IMHO. My best guess is mid-September to mid-October. This gives them time to transport ground troops to occupy the US after the radiation levels dissipate, and before Y2K disables their hi-tech weaponry completely (assuming we don't get off much of a retaliatory strike).

-- Nabi Davidson (nabi7@yahoo.com), August 05, 1999.

Great. Russia blatantly threatened us with Y2K, and we've given them exactly the excuse they were looking for.

"Use It Or Lose It" They're foaming to keep their word on this one!

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Russia Threatens US With Y2K Nuke Attack

URL dead now, but it's in archives lotsa times

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3/2/99 -- 7:45 PM

Official: Tensions With NATO Raise Danger of False Missile

MOSCOW (AP) - Russia's disputes with the West over Iraq and Yugoslavia are increasing the chances that Moscow would retaliate after a false warning of a missile attack, a top Russian defense official said Tuesday.

False missile warnings may be caused by the Year 2000 computer bug - which Russia has been slow to tackle - or other radar glitches, said Vladimir Dvorkin, head of a Defense Ministry department in charge of missile-warning systems.

He insisted that Russia would be much less likely to retaliate for a false alarm caused by the so-called ``millennium bug'' if the United States and NATO heeded Moscow's demands and called off the bombings of Iraq and the threat of airstrikes against Yugoslavia.

``The risk of making the wrong decision is higher when international tensions escalate,'' Dvorkin was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.

``The risk of such mistakes, including those caused by the unresolved Y2K problem, would be eliminated if international tensions eased, especially in conflict regions such as Iraq and Yugoslavia,'' he said.

Dvorkin didn't specify what could cause a false missile-attack warning besides the Y2K bug, saying only that ``theoretically, mistakes are possible.''

In 1995, Russian officials apparently mistook a Norwegian rocket launch for a missile aimed at Russia, prompting President Boris Yeltsin to open his ``black case'' containing nuclear launch codes. No attack was launched.

While Moscow may not respond to a false warning with an all-out nuclear strike, he refused to specify just how it would react to a mistaken alarm from its strategic radar.

`` It doesn't mean that a decision will be made to use all stockpiled nuclear forces in retaliation to a (perceived) mass attack ,'' he said.

[ Just *some* of them will do ]

At the same time, the Defense Ministry sought to stress that it was dealing successfully with the Y2K bug, and the risk of it causing Russia's nuclear forces to fire off unintentionally was negligible. Still, Dvorkin said that 74 control centers of Russia's Strategic Nuclear Forces were judged in ``critical'' condition because of their unpreparedness for the Y2K glitch.

But he insisted that Russia will resolve the problem by the end of the year.

[ Sure has NOT happened yet! ]

Russia has said it needs up to $3 billion to tackle the millennium bug problem, and appealed to NATO for help.
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This was BEFORE we so brilliantly bombed Yugoslavia to smithereens.
And now officials are puzzled why Russia is dragging its feet?
Duh! They want to have this promised excuse to nuke us!

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-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), August 06, 1999.


I too fear war (more from terrorists, though), but there is a subtlety that some may miss.

The Russians are a proud and capable people. In less than a generation, they have gone from a Super-power to a 3rd-world country. It is politically difficult, if not impossible, for them to have the US come in and "baby-sit" them. The US has been portrayed as their arch-enemy for so long that it would be "culture-shock" to the Russian people to bring in the US for Y2K.

My 2 cents...

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@Anonymous99.xxx), August 06, 1999.


Gee Maria...what happened to the plans for Russia to break early warning bread with us in the fancy-dancy facility you bragged about? Do you still think Yourdon is full of hot air?

-- a (a@a.a), August 06, 1999.

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