Does 'GI' == militia membership?

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Does 'GI' mean you are more likely to be a member of a militia? or to support your local citizen militia?

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999

Answers

Neither one for me because I can't trust anyone. I like what the verbage next to the photo down below says: The more you interact with people, the more chance there is that there will be a dispute. The less well-specified your interaction, the more chance there is that your dispute could lead to litigation.....

-- sadbuttrue (sadbuttrue@sadbuttrue.com), July 26, 1999.

Does Andy Ray ====BORING?

-- y2klady (y2klady2@y2klady.com), July 26, 1999.

The Postman was better off as a loner.

-- GI Loner (GIloner@GIloner.com), July 26, 1999.

Andy Ray,

What a dumb question! I thought you considered yourself an expert. Boy, you really don't have a clue do you? Better start researching.

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), July 26, 1999.


Gordon,

So...when is all this Jo Anne Effect stuff going to start again?

:)

Humored Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999.


Andy,

No, 'GI' == 'Get It'.

Where have you been?

-- (@ .), July 26, 1999.


Bridgers Testimony: Hearing of Special Committee on Year 2000 Technology Problem

JACQUELYN L. WILLIAMS- BRIDGERS
INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF STATE,
ARMS CONTROL AND DISARMAMENT AGENCY, AND
UNITED STATES INFORMATION AGENCY, INCLUDING
THE BROADCASTING BOARD OF GOVERNORS

THE YEAR 2000
COMPUTER PROBLEM:
GLOBAL READINESS AND INTERNATIONAL TRADE

BEFORE THE

SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON THE YEAR 2000 TECHNOLOGY PROBLEM

UNITED STATES SENATE

These assessments suggest that the global community is likely to experience varying degrees of Y2K-related failures in every sector, in every region, and at every economic level. As such, the risk of disruption will likely extend to the international trade arena, where a breakdown in any part of the global supply chain would have a serious impact on the U.S. and world economies. In light of all this, the challenge now facing the United States is to encourage and facilitate contingency planning by individual countries, their regional partners, and by international organizations such as the United Nations.

-- Brian (imager@home.com), July 26, 1999.


Andy Ray, you really are a pathetic jackass. A complete waste. Period.

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), July 26, 1999.

King of Spain,

You have yet to comprehend two very important truths:
1. You should only believe things which you can offer at least one shred of independently verifiable evidence to support; and
2. Name-calling works for your opponent in debate, as it demonstrates your lack of a strong enough argument for your premise. Thank you, and please continue.

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999.

And think about this...if a 'pathetic jackass' can defeat you in debate on your own 'turf,' what does that make you?

Humored Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999.


I like ya Andy Ray.

Troll humor is a usefull diversion for me. Do you get Boondocks in your comics? Nobody trolls humor better than McGruder.

Advice: Don't jump back in so much. Just toss it out and watch.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), July 26, 1999.


no and no

-- mchnst (Gunmkr52@aol.com), July 26, 1999.

No.
-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), July 26, 1999.

First let me say to all that I enjoy reading the comp wars among you all. It's funny to see such short fuses. Andy, to answer your question No to the first and it depends on the second. I will support the duly elected government, until...... That's for me to decide. But, you must remember that the vast majority of those who haunt this site is that we want to "survive". Period. Joining some group, especially a militia group will only get you ATF'd. Most of us will be solo and silent. Very, very low key. I don't plan on exposing my family to any more hardship than I have too.

-- dozerdoctor (dozerdoc@yahoo.com), July 26, 1999.

Subject: Does "Trolling" == mentally lazy pseudo-intellectual fishing expedition, using fake plastic lures for bait?

-- Spindoc' (spindoc_99_2000@yahoo.com), July 26, 1999.


Uh oh! We've been infected with the dreaded BOLD meme! A.R., please fix what you've carelessly forgot to correct.

-- Spindoc' (spindoc_99_2000@yahoo.com), July 26, 1999.

Andy,

You really are pathetic, and an idiot!

Most of my prep money has gone into storeing enough food to get my nieghbors thru the first 6 months till the crops can support us. Ive allways owned guns and buy ammo in case lots, it's cheaper. I, and no one else knows how bad, or a bump in the road it will be, no one.

I live at the end of the line for power, and when I know a storm is comeing, I make sure I have oil for the lamps, propane for the stove, refer mostly empty, food for a month, and a few good books, it's part of life here. I allways have ammo, trapping, and fishing supplys. Am I in a militia? Not an organized one. But if push comes to shove, we all know each other.

I say again, you are a frickin idiot,

-- CT (ct@no.yr), July 26, 1999.


Andy Ray == Paul Davis

-- IveBeenWatchingYou (Posting@debunky.memes), July 27, 1999.

Paul Davis of the *there ain't no big AIDS problem in Africa or SE Asia."? Naw can't be. Well, maybe.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), July 27, 1999.

Again, I think this is another question that you could have answered for yourself, if you had bothered to do the math.

In 1999, the number of active militia members in the USA (in the sense you are using the term) could scarcely be more than 8,000. Let's go whole hog and give them a full 50,000 membership.

The number of people who affirmatively respond in national polls that they are planning to make some kind of preparations for Y2K hovers in the vicinity of 25%. In raw numbers of US population, that would be well in excess of 50,000,000.

Even if every militia member in the USA were a GI, their percentage of the total would be, at the wildest heights of optimism, 1%. Realistically, make that 0.1%.

In which case, you are WAY off the scent, Andy Ray. Instead of hanging out here, go to the supermarket and talk to your neighbors. They'll give you some realistic answers for your book. Get off this doomer = fundamentalist = survivalist = armed to the teeth = John Birch Society kick of yours. It is purely a red herring.

I fit none of your shallow stereotypes.

I am a middle-aged, unarmed liberal who knows enough of history to know the world is a chaotic place and it makes sense to put a cushion between myself and the possibility of hard times. I happen to "get" Y2K because I have written some extensive programs and know assembly language as an amateur. In real life I am a technical writer for a very high-tech company that makes ASIC testers for other high-tech companies like Intel. I know that Y2K won't cause a devolutionary spiral, as InfoMagic liked to proclaim, but it has the potential to cause genuine grief to the economy, and put some serious kinks in the infrastructure for months on end.

Is it getting any clearer?

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), July 27, 1999.


Carlos,

You have yet to comprehend two very important truths:
1. I am Paul Davis's homosexual lover.
2. As such, I have humongous hemmoroids.

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 27, 1999.

Paul! It is you. You took the bait! Dummy. BTW, new treatment with old cheap drug ($4 a head vs $1000 for AZT) promises to curb infection rate in newborns. Huge hope for 3rd world. But, human sexuality aint controlable except perhaps in your household.

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), July 27, 1999.

Wait a minute. You funning me CEEPER?

-- Carlos (riffraff1@cybertime.net), July 27, 1999.

He's funning Everybody, All the time. Just can't take any of this seriously. Haven't you noticed? What Cory calls a "denial butthead."

-- Gordon (gpconnolly@aol.com), July 27, 1999.

C'mon, Carlos, you KNOW cpr doesn't write that coherently.

-- OutingsR (us@here.yar), July 27, 1999.

It's Paul Davis.

-- I'm (good@guessing.games), July 27, 1999.

No way! It has to be Drecker or Phoole.

-- I'm (better@guessing.games), July 27, 1999.

Or a hatched egg!

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), July 27, 1999.

Absolutely, Ray. We're all God fearin,' NWO hatin' (except for the wrastlers on teyvee), pickup truck drivin, tobacco spittin, fun luvin, baseball-cap wearin', gun brandishin' folk who are just itching for a fight with the UN troops and their alien spaceships. Oh yeah, and we're all inbred and racist, and proudly fly the stars and bars at every available opportunity. Next question?

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), July 27, 1999.

Andy Ray

With y2k we run a race against a bug that we do chase. The finish line is months away and not one racer can claim victory today.

The bug may bite and we lose our head or we may step and the bug be dead, or our businesses may carry-on and not miss a lick or they may get bit and become deathly sick.

So till the bell tolls and ushers in a new year you can be cautious and prepare or kick back and drink beer. But wherever you live in whatever state to prepare next January is to prepare too late.

Happy New Year.

-- daryl (rushmore@dialypost.com), July 27, 1999.


AR

As far as I know, I'm the only milita member here. Most of the others in my admittedly small unit don't think anything is going to happen, but have always had large pantries. The only time the topic came up was when they discussed what we could to to help the local authorities in the case of an emergency. We decieded that although our organization, medical and communication gear could be valuable we carry too much of a stigma from TV/movie portrayal of militas to do more than alarm the police. Pity, that.

Some other groups we share research with are planning to help with food, communications, medical (read "first aid"). Everyone seems pretty level headed in reagrads to what role, if any, our private arms would play (just knew you were wondering). Long arms will stay at home, side arms carried where the law allows.

So GI != milita and, it seems, milita != GI.

P.S. Judging by your attitude and bearing, you seem to be an academic. Could this be true?

God Bless, and keep your...

-- eyes_open (best@wishes.net), July 27, 1999.


I see that in my post from last night I made a math mistake that understated my case.

If 50,000 militia members exist, and all of them were GI, *at most* they would only constitute 0.1% of the more than 50,000,000 GIs (according to polls), and not the 1% that I posted before. Sorry, Andy Ray. My mistake. It looks even worse for your hypothesis than I thought.

-- Brian McLaughlin (brianm@ims.com), July 27, 1999.


growlin' at the salesman...

The Dog

-- Dog (Desert Dog@-sand.com), July 27, 1999.


Dear eyes_open,

I appreciate your response, and your willingness to serve in a citizen militia. Most people believe what they see and read in popular media about militia groups, and do not investigate further. Having required and benefitted from such groups (though not belonging), I understand their function and appreciate their existence. Kudos to you for your willingness to serve.

Brian McLaughlin,

You typed:
It looks even worse for your hypothesis than I thought.
I have formed no hypothesis regarding other connected beliefs and activities of 'GI's' at present, I have merely questioned, observed, and shared some of the observations. I believe this is good science, and (as it continues to disprove the hopes of those practising errant analysis) it reveals the truth; thus infuriating those who hope for something other than the truth.

If it did not further my personal agenda (that of dispelling the fear- monger's handiwork), I would perhaps react differently (or react at all) to the antics of the incorrect and immature. As it is, the acts of people who should be preparing (to be incorrect about the coming non-events of 000101, as they were about the non-events 990101, 990401, and 990701) simply expose them as the holders of the weaker argument.

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 27, 1999.

I have a picture of Charlton Heston on the ceiling over my bed. Now there's a mature, correct man. Very sexy. Mmmmm mmmmm.

Hot Regards,
Andy Boy


-- Andy Boy (andyboy666@hotmail.com), July 28, 1999.


Am I really this ignorant? Why can't I see the signs? Can someone give me a clue? Why don't people like me? All these questions and more answered in the next Andy Ray book, "No one wants to play with me" on sale soon.

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray

-- Andy Ray (andyman666@hotmale.com), July 28, 1999.

The mimicry is flattering, and it offers more evidence of the doomer mind-set. If you have no evidence with which to counter the message that Y2K will likely be less disruptive than the Jo Anne Non-Effect was, then just insult the messenger.

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 28, 1999.

Does Andy Ray actually believe forcing associations between the self-reliant mindset and the current plethora of media-induced hysterical negative imagery wlil help him attain his assigned goals?

-- Ontoyou (Ontoyou@transparent.tactics), July 28, 1999.

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