Does food storage == survivalist?

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Does food storage == survivalist?

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999

Answers

depends on how much food you've stored on your beltline.what do you mean by survivalist,anyway?

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), July 26, 1999.

survivalist????

There is no such word in my pocket Oxford Dictionary. Could you be more clear in your scientific inquiry like having well defined words? Of course this is not to much to ask is it?

-- Brian (imager@home.com), July 26, 1999.


survivalist?

Same with my Merriam-Webster dictionary. I cannot find that word.

-- y2k dave (xsdaa111@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999.


I believe everyone has an instinct to survive,why not just say extremist-nutbag,if that's what you mean?

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), July 26, 1999.

Andy, how well do you suppose this book you're writing will sell in Russia or Italy?

I mean, you won't be marketing it exclusively here, right?

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), July 26, 1999.



More important question:

Does Andy Ray == anal sphincter?

-- ace (x@y.z), July 26, 1999.


Survivalist (the word) is being used to ridicule and/or reject.

"Does food storage = survivalist?" Yes. But for some reason, like "patriot" or "environmentalist" these words have negative labels (due to press, snobery and propaganda). There is one thing that every living thing on the planet has in common - The will to survive. So although food storage = survivalist, it simply means common sense. As quoted before, the three stages of an invention are: Ridicule, Rejection and then Acceptance.

In January, those with food, water and alt power/heat will be the prudent. Those who don't will be the opposite of survivalist (suicidal?).

-- dw (y2k@outhere.com), July 26, 1999.


Just kind of curious, but I have submitted books for printing before and I know the schedule. If you submitted TODAY for your Y2K book, and it was accepted next week, (lotsa luck...) it MIGHT get printed by August 2000, distributed by October 2000. At that time, what will be the point?

So, with that "veneer" out of the way, WHAT IS THE REAL REASON FOR ALL THE PERSONAL QUESTIONS??? I really don't care what the reason is myself. The only thing I have to hide is my identity, on this forum. And astute research on this forum would reveal even that. So I really have NOTHING to hide...

I just can't figure out the recent INTEREST in everyone's beliefs?

Yes I have a:

gun, ammunition, water, food, heat, shelter, etc...

Am I a bad person? Am I a survivalist? No, and no.

Terrorist??? Gimme a break....

Rather than lie about your intentions regarding this form of information gathering on this forum, tell the truth. (we have so little truth today)

Now where was I? Oh yeah, anyone got a track pin puller for a M1A1 Abrams??? Damn track fell off... Also, who can do a trigger job on a 3.5" bazooka? Mine has a hair trigger and goes of too easily... ; )

DOH!

watchin the boy eat...

The Dog

-- Dog (Desert Dog@-sand.com), July 26, 1999.


Look folks, in case you haven't figured it out, Andy Ray is just screwing with your heads. It's his way of stirring things up.

I doubt very seriously that Andy Ray is writing a book. In the off chance that he is actually attempting to do so, the chances of him finding someone to publish a book such as he describes, would probably be pretty slim. If by some small chance he did actually find someone to publish it, you could probably find it on the clearance shelf shortly after it was released.

On July 12, 99 Andy Ray stated:

"I feel my work here is complete for now. Perhaps I'll pop back in around the time of the next non-event...when is that exactly? 990822, I believe, when the GPS system is supposed to fail and send us into global war or some such nonsense.......{snip}

Relaxing, smiling, satisfied, Andy Ray"

What's the real reason you're still here Andy? Nevermind, no need to reply. The answer is quite clear.

-- Harvester (no@email.com), July 26, 1999.


Does food storage = survivalist?

Yes it does.

does food storage = common sense? .....yes does food storage = blind risk taker? .... no does food storage = caring and consideration? ..... yes does food storage = a high stakes, high risk gambler? .... no does food storage = a happy-go-lucky lifestyle? .... yes ... it can does food storage = a survivalist = a self-serving question? ....yes

Pay close attention Andy Ray:

(1) You are behaving like a user. (2) You are participating in a risk campaign. (3) You are taking the easy, short-sighted path. (4) You have an agenda and are not paying enough attention. (5) The more #1 and #4 is exercised, the more flame you get. (6) Not everyone, regardless of I.Q., is anti-emotional.

If you have any family and friends, what is your level of concern for them since nobody really knows the y2k outcome? Given the uncertainty of the Y2K outcome, If you were only able to choose one of the two options below, which one would it be?

(1) The effort to safeguard your family from the effects of an unknown outcome after reading many valid official reports. (2) The effort to safeguard the publishing of your book with no family safeguard.

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), July 26, 1999.



Dear Feller,

Your response is somewhat well-reasoned, though riddled with assumptions about my mind-set on the issue. You are not alone, as others (for whatever reason) have attempted prompting me for more (and personal) information.

The assumptions seem (though I may be incorrect in my assessment of them; and apologise in advance for assuming about the nature of the assumptions) to revolve around equating my personal preparedness for this (or any) catastrophy and my scientific opinion of the likelihood of a catastrophic Y2K. The opposite seems unbelievable in the 'GI' mind-set - that one might be both prepared and trained for a small invasion of one's personal property (as all do not live securely away from such conflict, and some have endured and are yet likely to endure it) while praying for peace; and not believing Y2K is the event or the precursor to some cataclysmic social change. And so, while accusing others (myself, for instance) of naivete, they reveal themselves as champions of the uninformed by such assumptions.

I do not respond to the assumptions for three reasons:

Dog,

I believe I have track tools (though old and largely unused) for a vintage World War 2 German Tiger on hand. Interested?

Regards,
Andy Ray



-- Andy Ray (andyman633@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999.

Andy Ray,

I want to ask you a question. If you could be GUARANTEED by your home owner's insurance company that you WILL NOT have a fire next year, or the same from your auto insurance carrier that you WON'T have an accident next year, would you cancel your policy? Will they make such a guarantee? Not hardly. Well, does insurance policy holder=idiot doomer? I would not think so. I, for one, DO NOT think that we will have catastrophic failures in our infrastructure. Could we? Absoulutely. Do the experts know for sure? Show me where you can find anyone, anywhere that is unequivically guaranteeing no problems. Why then sir, is it wrong for people to prepare for the unknown? I seriously doubt the majority of the folks in this forum have gone so far as to move from their present homes and quit their jobs and barricaded themselves in a bunker. Some may feel that this is warranted. More power to them. The simple fact is that no one knows how y2k may play out and people are preparing for this unknown. Why do you feel it necessary to give those who do prepare a hard time? You certainly don't lose any money over their preparations. I dare say that you lose anything; time, effort, expended energy, nothing. So why are you even here? Do you think that you might "convert" someone on this forum to the polly side of thinking? Our own government is saying to prepare for 3 days of possible troubles. What if they are wrong? What if problems carry own for 3 weeks? Can you guarantee that there won't be problems in my city? What about your potential "converts" city? What about you own city?

As I stated earlier, I DO NOT think we will have catastrophic infrastructure failures. Am I prepared for them? You betcha. I've spent $25000.00 in the last 15 months in preparations, including having dug a well. Will I be glad if I don't have to use them. You betcha again. Will I pay my insurance premiums for next year for my house, car, health? You betcha. Will my polly neighbors be glad if things go bad and I've prepared for it? What do you think?

-- don (mrmtgman@aol.com), July 26, 1999.


Since book materials are being collected here, the record should be straight. The line "food storage => survivalist" comes from the classic poster on this forum, E. Coli, who has been MIA for some months now. This fragment should be taken in context. The initial equation was given recently, but missing the clever tagline. It is reproduced below in its entirety:

"A Glimpse Into the Mind of a Sheep" by E. Coli food storage = survivalist survivalist = militia member milita member = terrorist Terrorist Bad!

-- Ct Vronsky (vronsky@anna.com), July 26, 1999.


off

-- Ct Vronsky (Vronsky@anna.com), July 26, 1999.

leggo my leg!!

-- Vronsky (vronsky@anna.com), July 26, 1999.


Andy Ray, An undertaking you propose--a book about y2k inflicted paranoia--surely requires credentials on your part. Might you be so kind as to display these credentials? Surely they exist?? Just curious about your Psychology background!!

-- T. Jewell (av8r@hotmail.com), July 26, 1999.

Andy keeps throwing out the hook... people keep biting.

why?

-- Linda (lwmb@psln.com), July 26, 1999.


Andy Ray, If our forefathers did not pratice food storage none of us would be here today. Read about Noah he stored every kind of food eaten. He was moved to do what he did out of fear. Go ahead and read about it its just a few verses. See for yourself-the 4 letter F word! FEAR. Food storage + Fear = Life.

-- Army Girl (aGirl@ag.com), July 26, 1999.

-no-

-- mchnst (Gunmkr52@aol.com), July 26, 1999.

Does survivalist == alive?
-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), July 26, 1999.

No, food storage = self-reliance.

-- Ontoyou (Ontoyou@transparent.tactics), July 29, 1999.

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