Go the Gary North's site: http://www.garynorth.com/y2k/latest_.cfm (Sory can't hot link). Click on: "These Are Probably Sightseeing Busses. Or Something". Follow all the way through and look at all the pictures. Also the picture of Fort Dix.

-- Nadine Zint (nadine@hillsboro.net), July 24, 1999

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I really blew that - please disregard the typo's - this is well worth your time and it did make the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

-- Nadine Zint (nadine@hillsboro.net), July 24, 1999.

Don't tell me Gary North has jumped onto the milita rhetoric about black helicopters, contrails, and the impending UN invasion. Is that where he is going after Y2k fizzles?

-- Bob Brock (bbrock@i-america.net), July 24, 1999.

To Bob Brock:

I really don't know where Mr. North is going with this. He made no comment and it had nothing to do with black helicopters. I wasn't aware that y2k had fizzled yet - my calendar says it is still 1999.

-- Nadine Zint (nadine@hillsboro.net), July 24, 1999.

those pictures have been floating around on the internet for months. If you want to see REAL prison compounds, with tent top living facilities,latrines, guard towers and lots of barbed wire, come to Florida. We have them and we use them. They get no coffee, no TV, no smoking and they work 8 to 10 hours a day. Do I feel sorry for them. NO !! Taz

-- Taz (Tassie@aol.com), July 24, 1999.

No it has noting to do with black helicopters. However, it does have something to do with US POW Camps and UN troop transport. Why don't you go to the link provided on his web page and then hotlink to: http://newswatchmagazine.org/powpict/home.htm

From there you can see the actual POW camp at Ft. Dix NJ and hear about all the other POW camps that are scattered throughout the US.

Anyway, I realize that Scary Gary has made a lot of money from the Y2k scare, but I bet that he will be going to something else after it's over. The UN occupation tripe seems to be his next stop.

After all, he has to put something in those 2 year subscriptions doesn't he?

-- Bob Brock (bbrock@i-america.net), July 24, 1999.

Taz

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That's funny! I was following a couple of low boy rigs yesterday on the interstate down here(Texas). Guess what? They were hauling some of those white Hummers, headed north.LOL wonder where they have been hiding them out for the last few months..Incidently, have seen several of those convoys over the last 6 months or so!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Shakey~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-- Shakey (in_a_bunker@forty.feet), July 24, 1999.

Did anyone bother to note that some of those pictures are dated from 1995 and 1997. Seems like someone is trying to scare everyone for nothing.

-- justpassingthru dude (SeenItAll@everywhere.com), July 24, 1999.

Those appear to be doctored photos. The shadows are not right on the UN and Military Police labels appear to have been pasted or embedded using a graphics package. I have done this type work before and they look fake as hell to me.

Please people, this New World Order crap detracts from the seriousness of the problem facing us. The UN is not going to take over the US. That is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard. They couldn't even take over Yugoslavia for Christ's sake. Get a fucking grip.

We're in deep shit all right but it's not from some wacked out third party conspiratorial attack, it's from within. Our own government can't cope with this crisis and we're going to need to stick together to survive this. It will do no good if we're all posting lookouts to shoot at white busses. We need each other to survive, so stop posting divisive crap like this.

-- Gordon (g_gecko_69@hotmail.com), July 24, 1999.

Gordon, You have my vote!

-- Roberta Blackard (roblackard@juno.com), July 24, 1999.

Gordon,

Way to keep things in perspective. I am worried about the goverment abusing it's power after y2k but all this NWO b.s. is really starting to get to me. Some people need to relax just a bit. Healthy amount of suspicion is good, but try to evaluate everything "rationally".

-- STFrancis (STFrancis@heaven.com), July 24, 1999.

I haven't looked but it sounds like the stuff that was running on a lot of boards last fall, Frugal Squirrels for one. It was all mostly debunked and proven false. Printing and signs and photos had been falsified.

I agree, U.N. can't take over Rhode Island much less anything larger !

-- sue (deco100@aol.com), July 24, 1999.

I apologize to everyone - I didn't have my compter last fall and much of this is new to me. I had not seen the pictures before and just assumed they were current. I did not mean to cause harm and was not trying to scare anybody.

-- Nadine Zint (nadine@hillsboro.net), July 24, 1999.

Nadine Zint ..You did just fine...the idea is to toss out some info and we all can learn... Wish you well...Charon

-- Charon (that place@downbelow.com), July 24, 1999.

I just wanna know what's the prize in GN's "white vehicle picture contest"? Sounds like GN is having a little fun with his post.

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), July 24, 1999.

Gary North is an idiot and a scare monger.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), July 24, 1999.

No need to involve black helicopters an dthe UN...turn to FOX right now and witness the US paramiltary police busting drug users and entrapped prostitution customers.

-- a (a@a.a), July 24, 1999.

Sorry Nadine I should have clarified my remarks. They were intended for Mr. North. I think he has some great information on his site as well as some complete crap. Obviously this qualifies as the latter.

In any event, wasn't directed at yourself. We're all in this together. Good luck to you.

-- Gordon (g_gecko_69@hotmail.com), July 24, 1999.

All this anti-UN stuff is sheer paranoia, fueled by xenophobic demagogues from the far right and religious people who interpret the Tower of Babel story literally.

How the heck can the UN occupy the world's sole economic and military superpower as well as the third most-populous nation (260million)? The UN has very little power, being mostly an organization that vaccinates children and gives the Third World a chance to vent its (sometimes justified, sometimes not...) vociferous anti-American opinions. They've proven that they have little talent for peacekeeping and even less for combat. The US military budget must be a thousand times greater than the UNs. THEY ARE NOT TRAINING TO ATTACK US CITIZENS! They can't even return fire on a hostile enemy unless the Secretary General signs the order! The UN is, by and large, a farce, not a threat.

Focus on these extreme stories does NO GOOD to illuminate the actual compromises to the sovereignty of the US in smaller, more insidious ways--eg., the breakage of NATOs founding treaty by Clinton in Kosovo- -the growing influence of multinational corporations on our President and Congress, etc.

It does NO GOOD to worry about the UN when we have a government that already does a fine job of imprisoning more of its own people than any nation in the developed world (except Russia), mostly due to our unconstitutional mandatory sentencing and prohibition laws. The biggest enemy of our freedom is not foreign. It is us.

-- coprolith (coprolith@rocketship.com), July 25, 1999.