All in wonder pro, Adeptec CD-Creator, CD Burner, now what do I do?

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I have a ATI All-in-wonder Pro AGP video card that does s-video and RCA capture, I have a 2X2X6 Acer CDRW, and I am using Adeptec CD-Creator to burn CDs, all running on a Pentium II system. Now where can I find information to figure out how to created my own VCDs? Or can Anyone just list'em in simple 1 2 3 steps so I can create my own VCDs. I am aware that the ATI player does not capture in MPEG-1 format. I know I need some coverting softwares... Can anyone give me some pointers... thanks

-- herbert (hyong@linkonline.net), July 22, 1999

Answers

1.For best results at home, use Premiere 4.2 or 5.1 to do your capturing. For NTSC You must use at least 30 fps at 1.172., 352x240 and Motion JPegs and s-video for best results. This is very close to the Whitebook vcd 2.0 standard, but in avi format.

2.Next, you have to encode the avi to mpeg1. Xing Encoder is very good among a non-hardware encoders.

3.Use a VCD creating software, prefably the winoncd 3.6 by cequadrat. This one works. Make sure your dat files are in the mpegav folder. Make sure you test on rewritables first because some software may burn the dat files in the wrong folder. If they are in the wrong folder, your vcds won't play on stand alone vcd players.

-- (jellyrol@sfsu.edu), July 23, 1999.


Hello fellow ATI All in Wonder Pro user. You have just about the same set up as I did when I was getting started! I've provided the below instructions to other ATI users on this forum. This will help you get the most out of what you already have.

The fact is Adobe Premiere is going to use the exact same ATI capture card and codecs and you'll get the exact same quality using it or using the ATI Video Player. Getting Premiere is not necessary(It's also very costly). Here's what you need to do with what you already have... You're first step is to capture the video. Here's the settings you should use on the ATI Video Player(if you don't your MPEG compression/conversion software won't except it as a VCD): - Open the player and click on the camera button. - Click on the settings button. - Click on the 'VCR' tab. - Click on the 'Advanced' button. - Click on 'Overide automatic settings'. - Check the 'Capture Video at (30) fps'. - Click on the 'Select Video Format' button. - Image Format 'ATI VCR 2.0'. - Image Dimensions 'CIF NTSC (352x240)' - Click OK. - Check the 'Capture Audio' at (44.1 kHz, Stereo, 16-bit). - Check on the 'Limit Capture' and select the number of seconds you want to record. Remember you should limit the time well under 74 minutes for it to fit on one CD. There will be other VCD files added to the CD when you create the VCD. I usually limit the time to 60 minutes. - If your hurting for hard drive space lower the percentage of free space you want to leave available on your hard drive. - Select 'capture direct to disk'.

That's it. You're now ready to capture your VCD compatible 'AVI format' video. I usually have to start the capture process 2 or 3 times because it drops frames for some reason at the start. Also, if you use Windows 98 you may have a problem with the player automatically stopping the capture after 20 minutes. There's a fix for this on the ATI website. You have to download the Windows 98 video player.

Second step is to convert your AVI format video into MPEG-1 video format. I have 2 different programs that I've used.... DVMPEG and Xing Mpeg Encoder. They both work fine and produce similar quality MPegs, but as MR. VCD has stated in the past, these are the lower end conversion programs available out there. There are programs available that will produce higher quality MPEG if you're interested(I'm satisfied though). They both have 'VCD' format templates built in to use when you convert.

The third step is to use your CDR software(with VCD creation capabilities) to create the VCD by importing the created Mpegs. I've used both Adaptec VCD creator and WinonCD, but there's many other programs and software available out there and everyone has their on preference. Your Adaptec version has a VCD creation wizard on it that will walk you through step by step. Pretty easy.

After you've burned the CD, you'll notice that the CDR software has converted your MPEG video into a 'dat' format.

It took me a while to figure all of this out. I didn't have any help or advice when I was doing this.....I'm glad I can shorten the process for someone else. The answers given in this forum often are brief because everyone assumes you're a pro already.

Let me know when you've made your first disk! It's always a little exciting. Hope I've helped. Don't hesitate to e-mail me if you have any further questions.

-- Robert(Slide)Snider (rsnider1@san.rr.com), July 26, 1999.


ati uses a proprietary codec and adobe premier has no idea about that codec unless you have an ati product or have installed the unsupported ati vcr1 and vcr2 codecs on a non ati machine.

-- intune (catalyst@net1inc.net), January 08, 2000.

Here is my setup: K7-Athlon(600MHz)on Gigabytes G7IX AGP (win98v2) 256Mb PC100 SDRAM main memory ATI All-In-One 128 32Mb AGP version video card Dazzle USB DVC capture hardware Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live 128 Platinum sound card 2x20Gigs Western Digital 7200 RPM EIDE drives Compaq 10x DVD-ROM Sony USB Xpressa 4x4x6x Adaptec EZ CD Creator 4.0 Deluxe Ulead 3.0 VideoStudio VideoWaveIII Good S-video source

Question: 1. ATI All-In-One Wonder 128 card claims to capture in mpeg-1(vcd) format(CIF NTSC 352x240) 115000kbits etc... Is this true vcd format? 2. Do I have to capture the video in AVI and encode it to MPEG-1 instead? The quality of the mpeg-1 from ATI is good enough already, unless AVI to MPEG-1 yields better quality video. I try to avoid this as much as possible due to the hours of encoding time. 3. What do I need to do with EZ CD Creator to write the MPEG-1 to the CD-R/CD-RW in VCD format? What size is the MPEG-1 file has to be in order to fit into the 650Mb CD-R/CD-RW? Standard movie time is about 2hours and 10 minutes this will yield a MPEG-1(vcd format)filesize approximately 1.3Gigs. I can split this into two files 648Mb each. 4. I've tried to create a few VCD's and have made a few coasters. I tried to play them on a toshiba DVD player and it would not recognize the CD-R(read error). PC will recognize it as a data disk but not as a VCD.

Please Help a newbie to this field....

-- lnguyen (wingstarzz@hotmail.com), January 24, 2000.


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