I'm Still Waiting ... Wednesday, 07-Jul-1999 01:00:22 209.214.107.214 writes:

What other "obvious deceptions" have I engaged in?

Stephen M. Poole, CET ******************************************************************

Re: I'm Still Waiting ... Wednesday, 07-Jul-1999 09:20:01 171.211.87.240 writes:

Do you really need a list? I mean, isn't ONE BIG DECEPTION bad enough? The whole hoax thread was full of deception and you know it. You talk about being a utility worker with a conscience, please!

As far as you not caring one iota what the Swamp Pit thinks, then why the apology? Oh right, that was just bullshit. Hence, Deception Number 2.

I could go on but I don't know you well enough nor do I care to investigate you any further. But I'm convinced there is more.

Jack Gordon

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Poole DEMONSTRATED in a controlled 'experiment" VS: a min of 25 examples of DOOMER DECEPTION daily. Wednesday, 07-Jul-1999 10:13:57 151.164.58.202 writes:

I can document off the top of my head. Probably well over 100 de-bunkings of their "deceptions" and "misleading" PROPAGANDA. They are not dealing in "facts'. They deal in lavels of abstraction far removed from fact.

POOLE DID NOT DECEIVE: he "DEMONSTRATED" in a controlled experiment. Sort of like putting cosmetics in the Rabbits Eye as it were. They did not like it for assorted reasons. Some technically. BUT SOME DID LIKE IT and that was his point.

Newpaper and media reports based upon interview with self appointed experts.

White papers from VENDORS of IT services designed to get purchase orders are used "out of context".

Studies such as North's beloved "California White Paper" are applied to areas they do not discuss. He continuously applies the standards of Enterprise software remediation of Fort. 500 to ONE EMBEDDED SYSTEM or a collect of them. Just this week he posted "What about the year of testing?".

ALL this spun into a "PARADIGM" that is OBSOLETED BY NEW DATA.

NEW DATA DEMANDS RE EXAMINATION OF THE **OLDER PARADIGM *** DOESN"T IT??

Where is that "reexamination" or "reevalution"??

We know that North does not have it. Could Ed "its a ten year depression" Yourdon?? Who knows?? He won't "comment publically" (AT LEAST, NOT MUCH).

YOU are free to buy it. When you try to spread more of it, BE PREPARED FOR THE "POOLES OF THE WORLD" TO ANSWER YOU BACK.

The.. "YOU" IS GENERIC. IT APPLIES TO GN.EY.BRUCE BEACH, COWLES, MARTIN, AND ALL THE REST WHO SAW FIT TO PROPAGATE THE ASSORTED "MYTHS AND LEGENDS" OR WHO DID NOTHING TO "CLARIFY" AFTER THE TRUTH WAS REVEALED.

WHETHER IT WAS A SIN OF "OMMISSION" OR "COMMISSION" MATTERS LITTLE.

BEARING FALSE WITNESS AFTER IT HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE IS WRONG.

POOLE CAME CLEAN IN A CAREFULLY DESIGNED "EXPERIMENT".

cpr

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And I'm STILL Waiting Wednesday, 07-Jul-1999 10:26:39 209.214.107.205 writes:

In other words, you can't.

Thanks. :)

Stephen M. Poole, CET

-- Jack Gordon (TrnityTest@aol.com), July 07, 1999

Answers

Poole is history. I am tired of seeing his name on this forum. Let it go.

-- Mike Lang (webflier@erols.com), July 07, 1999.

Poole=Poolenocchio

br14

-- br14 (br14@bout.done), July 07, 1999.

Ignore him, and the rest. They've "proved" themselves, alright.

It's still Y2K... when push comes to shove.

Back to digging.

Diane

-- Diane J. Squire (sacredspaces@yahoo.com), July 07, 1999.

And still every single one of you little marks took it as the truth. Poole proved exactly what he set out to do and that is debunk the unknown source that supposedly speaks the truth.

All of you were in love with that post as it proved the power would go out, and made you fell oh so smart for spending thousands on generators, solar power panels, ect. And now you all try to back out of your endorsements.

Why don't you all just admit that you were all fooled and learn a lesson from it. All you have done is attack Poole for not being nice. When people have been physically threatening others in here that do not support your Mad Max fantasies of survival.

So continue your petty, "Poole is mean" crap and take it as a wakeup call that people such as Gary North and Paul Milne are clueless. Since they also felt that it was the truth.

-- HaHaHaHaHa (stilllaughin@allofyou.com), July 07, 1999.

Every one of us "marks" took it? Almost NONE of us took it fartface, can't you read? You're going to need to provide more detailed info. This is too lacking and general to be considered genuine info.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 29, 1999.

Wow guy, you're good! [not] We all better tell Phillips that they need to work on their numbering/naming schemes, because they overlap quite a bit with their consumer electronics gear. For example, the VRZ262AT is a stereo VCR. Hmm, the VRZ262-Q7 is some sort of power gizmo? I don't think so.

-- Jollyprez (jolly@prez.com), June 29, 1999.

I hope you are not someone from the generally rude "Y2k Debunker Camp

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), June 29, 1999.

I still say the odds are more likely for serious problems lasting 6 months to a year

-- R.C. (raca,bab@mailcity.com), June 29, 1999.

We have confirmation from Drew on "Dan, the power man." It sure would put some punch behind this post if we could do the same for W.U.W. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 29, 1999.

As a nontechnical outsider, I wouldn't have any idea of what a VZ whatever gizmo is. I've gotten somewhat more reassured recently about Y2K and U.S. power grids

-- Don Florence (dflorence@zianet.com), June 29, 1999.

I would like to have been the first to say "bullshit" to the original post, but allow me to second the motion..."you are full of shit, worried" Ibet you don't even work NEAR a utility.

-- anonamus (fear@thenew.overlords), June 29, 1999.

Oh no! You mean the power companies won't be able to record their favorite soaps on that Phillips VRZ262-Q7? TEOTWAWKI for sure!

-- amused (nice-try@troll.com), June 29, 1999.

This is a hoax. Just to let you know that there's no such thing as a "Siemens System 3 SCADA" either.

-- Nigel Arnot (nra@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk), June 29, 1999.

This doesn't sound very realistic to me.

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), June 29, 1999.

"ha ha!"

-- (worried@is a.troll), June 29, 1999.

Or could it be a "polly" troll disguising itself as a "doomer" so it can have a good laugh over at the BFI site at the expense of poor Yourdon folks? Is that you again, Buddy? Off your medication again, perhaps?....

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), June 29, 1999.

We've got this apparently "fake doomer" post... Must be something in the air...

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), June 29, 1999.

CME has the polly trolls disjointed.....

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), June 29, 1999.

The Phillips VRZ262-Q7, hmmmm...haven't we seen a previous bogus post on a non-y2k compliant "Q7" transistor before? This shoulda been a hint... Regards,

-- FactFinder (FactFinder@bzn.com), June 29, 1999.

This post from Worried was also posted on EUY2K. Rick Cowles today said he had established to a "certainty" that it is a hoax

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), June 30, 1999.

Excerpts from the thread "Why The Power Will Fail In 2000" found at

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0010xS

-- a (a@a.a), July 07, 1999.

Every one of us "marks" took it? Almost NONE of us took it fartface, can't you read?

You're going to need to provide more detailed info. This is too lacking and general to be considered genuine info.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 29, 1999.

Wow guy, you're good! [not] We all better tell Phillips that they need to work on their numbering/naming schemes, because they overlap quite a bit with their consumer electronics gear. For example, the VRZ262AT is a stereo VCR. Hmm, the VRZ262-Q7 is some sort of power gizmo? I don't think so.

-- Jollyprez (jolly@prez.com), June 29, 1999.

I hope you are not someone from the generally rude "Y2k Debunker Camp

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), June 29, 1999.

I still say the odds are more likely for serious problems lasting 6 months to a year

-- R.C. (raca,bab@mailcity.com), June 29, 1999.

We have confirmation from Drew on "Dan, the power man." It sure would put some punch behind this post if we could do the same for W.U.W. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 29, 1999.

As a nontechnical outsider, I wouldn't have any idea of what a VZ whatever gizmo is. I've gotten somewhat more reassured recently about Y2K and U.S. power grids

-- Don Florence (dflorence@zianet.com), June 29, 1999.

I would like to have been the first to say "bullshit" to the original post, but allow me to second the motion..."you are full of shit, worried" Ibet you don't even work NEAR a utility.

-- anonamus (fear@thenew.overlords), June 29, 1999.

Oh no! You mean the power companies won't be able to record their favorite soaps on that Phillips VRZ262-Q7? TEOTWAWKI for sure!

-- amused (nice-try@troll.com), June 29, 1999.

This is a hoax. Just to let you know that there's no such thing as a "Siemens System 3 SCADA" either.

-- Nigel Arnot (nra@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk), June 29, 1999.

This doesn't sound very realistic to me.

-- Paul Davis (davisp1953@yahoo.com), June 29, 1999.

"ha ha!"

-- (worried@is a.troll), June 29, 1999.

Or could it be a "polly" troll disguising itself as a "doomer" so it can have a good laugh over at the BFI site at the expense of poor Yourdon folks? Is that you again, Buddy? Off your medication again, perhaps?....

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), June 29, 1999.

We've got this apparently "fake doomer" post... Must be something in the air...

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), June 29, 1999.

CME has the polly trolls disjointed.....

-- lisa (lisa@work.now), June 29, 1999.

The Phillips VRZ262-Q7, hmmmm...haven't we seen a previous bogus post on a non-y2k compliant "Q7" transistor before? This shoulda been a hint... Regards,

-- FactFinder (FactFinder@bzn.com), June 29, 1999.

This post from Worried was also posted on EUY2K. Rick Cowles today said he had established to a "certainty" that it is a hoax

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), June 30, 1999.

Excerpts from the thread "Why The Power Will Fail In 2000" found at

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0010xS

-- a (a@a.a), July 07, 1999.

ENOUGH OF CESS POOL, ALREADY !

-- FLAME AWAY (BLehman202@aol.com), July 07, 1999.

It demonstrates that we should trust no one and continue prepping.........

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), July 08, 1999.