Subject:	Clue-By-Four
Date:	1999/06/17
Author:	Paul Milne <fedinfo@halifax.com>
	Posting History

Y2K Test Causes Huge Sewage Spill 4 Million Gallons Seeped Into A Van Nuys Park VAN NUYS, Calif., Updated 12:03 p.m. June 17, 1999 -- How do you know when a computer system has failed a Y2K test? When it caused 4 million gallons of raw sewage to spill into the streets.     The error occurred when a computer closed a gate, blocking a major sewage line serving the western San Fernando Valley and causing the sewage to back up and overflow, a wire service reports.   "The computer didn't tell us it closed the gate," Birk said, adding the reason for the problem was not immediately clear.   =========   Here is the bottom line. They have no freaking clue why it happened. They were CLUELESS. Now imagine this was at a chemical plant.  How about at a nuclear facility.   And they will simply say, "The computer didn't tell us it closed the gate" , or a valve, or something else that will kill someone.   Will it satisfy you AFTER you are looking down at the corpse of you dead child when they tell you, "the reason for the problem was not immediately clear."  But, your chiuld will be just as dead. Will your 'dope slap' bring your child back to life? Will your 'shoulda, coulda, woulda' be a good answer to your wife when you try to explain how it was more important to maintain your present lifestyle, rather than get out of Dodge when you had half a chance?     It is only a matter of time. All hell is going to break loose when all the crap they missed starts to go. All at the same approximate time.  More and more of these situations will be reported, and it is my opinion that people will NOT be moved from their posture.  But, at some point, a critical mass will be reached.  And the onset of the panic will be swift and violent.   Yet all the idiot pollyannas sit on their fat asses telling people that they do not need to make substantial preparations.   Next time it will be the San Onofre Nuclear plant, or DuPont Chemical, or some other company, with potentially lethal consequences. And you just will not be happy until a family member is killed.   Paul Milne

-- a (a@a.a), June 17, 1999

Answers

Oh hell Paul. You haven't read Decker's fond memories of the Great Depression yet, have you? Shit, he's got me looking forward to ice- cream socials after Church for Christsake. Being a *true* American and strolling through the park in the evenings. I had been convinced that we're in deep dog crap....but no more. Thank you Mr. Montana for showing me the error of my ways. But...then again....I've held a dead child in MY arms before. I'M not here to impress anyone with MY large brain. You folks new to this crisis had better think about some of the fluff that's being shoved down your throats by the "don't worry, be happy" crowd. These facts show disaster. They're facts just sound nicer. A little easier to swallow. Too bad you can't feed them to children.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 18, 1999.

Correction: Their facts. (Wouldn't want the Spelling God to rake my ass over the coals!)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 18, 1999.

This is some SERIOUS sh*t here, no question. The fact that we have about half a dozen threads going on this forum discussing it is an indication.

But the real sh*t has not begun quite yet. It will, trust me, when the spinmasters start their game. I can see it now: "Well, just because it happened during the Y2K test, lets not all panic and assume that it was Y2K related. Probably someone just was a little too hard with the plunger, and it would have happened anyhow. Don't worry, it won't actually happen on January 1, and if it did we would be able to fix it real fast, Johnny-on-the-spot so to speak. And, oh, did I mention that you should not take your money out of your bank? Not related, but might as well throw that in there. (And gawd, if you do, don't hide it near a sink or drain!!!)"

-- King of Spain (madrid@aol.com), June 18, 1999.

King: "a little too hard with the plunger" HAHAHAAHOOOOHOHA. GEEEEEEZZZZEE.....that was good!!! Phhhheww You Latin Royals just crack me up. I couldn't fit that much raw sewege into my two story house.....plunger.....BWAAAAAAHAHA.

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 18, 1999.

You know, I can just see the company spokesman on CNN tomorrow: " I guess we had something to learn from this. Now that we know what the problem is we'll have it fixed in no time at all. Sorry 'bout the shit in your garden."

-- Gia (Laureltree7@hotmail.com), June 18, 1999.

Golly by Polly! One Y2k test caused a spill in one location!

By illogical extension, and panic-mongering/advertising/survivalist marketing logic;

that must mean that this will happen everywhere, all over the world!

*****

In a related incident, there was a fatal car accident about ten miles down the road from where I live today.

You folks better not get in your cars for a while: since it happened where I live, it's going to happen where you live, too. No doubt about it. There will be no safe cars from henceforth.

-- Chicken Little (panic@forthebirds.net), June 18, 1999.

Hey, .. you ... chicky cluck cluck.

You have no idea how asinine your names is do you? Are you familiar with the children's story of Chicken Little? Did you know that in days gone by so-called doomers were called your name? Perhaps you should reconsider and get a real arguement while you at it.

-- Will (sibola@hotmail.com), June 18, 1999.

Chicken Little:

I'm just curious - the word "Little" in your name - does it refer to your brain, or a certain part of your anatomy?????????

-- Eyes Wide Open (sickofjerks@y2k.com), June 18, 1999.

It'll be interesting to see if the community near the spill exhibits an increase in diseases.

Got Hep-B shots?

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), June 18, 1999.

As I posted on another thread, according to POLLY LOGIC, *ALL* Y2K "incidents" are "isolated". So, a MILLION "incidents" would not be statistically relevent, in THEIR way of thinking.....

I just don't understand people like that. But you know, the harsh reality is that these people (if TSHTF) will be REMOVED from the gene pool (Darwinian selection in action). It's just a SHAME that their loved ones (esp their children) will have to DIE as well. Needless, meaningless deaths. The TRUE polly result.

-- Dennis (djolson@pressenter.com), June 18, 1999.

Wilferd

I would be more interested to see if their is more widespread awareness and prepping for Y2K in the immediate area...

-- (anon@please.net), June 18, 1999.

CL said:

"Golly by Polly! One Y2k test caused a spill in one location! "

They were the only ones trying that test, Chicken Idiot.

-- a (a@a.a), June 18, 1999.

Me, too, anon. Wonder how or if this will change the *official* local preparation guidelines. Wonder how many folks there will decide (*unofficially*) to wake up and prepare? I can't think of a more literal wake up call than when TSHTF due to a failure occuring during a Y2k test, can you? What else will people need as *proof*? A chemical plant malfunctioning? A nuclear power plant going haywire? It'll take someone with mighty big 'cajones' to keep spouting the "All's well, remain calm" party line after this little 'oopsie'. (Wonder if he/she will have the nerve to say this in public, or will they just issue press releases. Press releases get my vote. Much safer that way.)

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), June 18, 1999.

Chicken --

Just wanted to thank you for your posts. All the newbies can see you as a shining example of a truly clueless name-calling pollyanna with no logical arguments for anything. You have done more to promote the fact that debunkers are idiots than any other single poster. Keep it up, you're the best weapon we "doomers" have. Are you sure you're not a doomer in disguise, trying to make the pollyannas look like morons?

-- Colonel Sanders (tired_of_chicken_sh_t@moron.com), June 18, 1999.

For the amusement of Pollyannas, why do you bother?

Real Y2K glitches are causing problems, yey you mock those who provide warnings.

What are your motives?

The banking domino setup is ripe for capitulation, and it's only a matter of time until the rest of them fall.

What does it take to make you happy?

I am not happy with these Y2K testing malfunctions.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 18, 1999.

Yey!

To all Pollyannas:

I want some PROOF that Y2K will not cause havoc upon America. I would like to be reassured that our country will not be severely judged by God.

Please provide some valid arguments to help me sleep this night...

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 18, 1999.

Randolph:

I sympathize. Proof that any given event won't or will happen in the future would be very nice to have. It's never existed, but it would still be nice. (Though I admit there are some things I wouldn't want to know. Ever read Heinlein's story "Lifeline"?)

Sadly, all we can do is try our best to guess what all of these contradictory signs might mean. Granted, there are many here who resolve these contradictions by selecting their signs very carefully, rejecting all the others, and then demanding proof after they've made even good guessing impossible. I strongly suspect that if God Himself posted an accurate description of the future in every detail, he'd be shouted down as a polly. And when all of those details came true, those same shouters would claim you can't trust the media, the government, or any other source of information that shows they're wrong.

And you want proof? Well, it would be nice.

-- Flint (flintc@mindspring.com), June 18, 1999.