The Doomer"s Oath --- an oath to remain silent on everything pretaining to Y2K. The Oath -- " I promise to remain silent on All issues that have to do with Y2K with everyone I met. I promise to tell 'No One' about my 'preps'".

-- thinkIcan (thinkIcan@make.it), June 17, 1999

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For some it may be a hard Oath to take and for others it may be even harder to keep, -- but it may save you life a few months from now.

-- thinkIcan (thinkIcan@make.it), June 17, 1999.

uh...what does this do to the concept of "Community Conversations"?

-- a (a@a.a), June 17, 1999.

Well, I broke it already. Am I gonna die?

Maybe I should take the Oaf's Oath.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 17, 1999.

a:

It means we post secret encrypted messages to each other. Only Digitized Doomers get the special software to decipher them. Pollys will see only garbled symbols. (They may already see them this way.)

$9.99 while supplies last...

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 17, 1999.

One word.......huh?

-- Mike (midwestmike_@hotmail.com), June 17, 1999.

I am guessing, but I think the point is we should be building comunity and we are "not". The word is out, if you are in to Y2K you are into Art BELL and Aliens. Well, time to go out and meet those around you. Make sure that they have at least "Three Days" food and water....Or for sure they will be a knocking at your door.

Just bought an "extra" bag of beans and rice for the neighbors.

Keep the faith

Helium

-- helium (heliumavid@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

Randolph and Mike --- Hey guys think about this one just a little bit. "If" the world [America] does happen to start spinning completely out of control, and poor JQP out of food and little water, don't you think they're going to start thinking about who said this might happen. If you just happened to tell them you had been "preping" and they are desparate, do you think just by chance they might try to look you up. What then? I think this is another level of "Getting It". Who knows, its just my opinion.

-- thinkIcan (thinkIcan@make.it), June 17, 1999.

thinkIcan:

Many people already know I've stockpiled. They don't know how much, and I've never told ANYONE the complete amount, but it doesn't matter. Rumor at the factory has it that I had SIX pallets of food delivered. It was only three spread over three months, but who's keeping count when gossip spreads?

I've told people about the need to prepare food and water and other essentials, but too many DGIs (for my comfort level) have joked about coming to visit me if things get bad. I expect a lot of visitors. I don't have a gun. Guess who's gonna die.

I would like to get many provisions stashed out at my family's houses in the country. So far I haven't been able to do much. I'm sure they'll all want some WTSHTF. I live in a small city in a rural county, so I expect I'll be able to transport provisions without much interference. I wouldn't feel so confident if I lived in Toledo, but that's over an hour's drive away from my location.

I have always considered the potential visitor scenario, which is why I'm revealing less and less. But they won't forget...

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 17, 1999.

It's certainly not a "Doomer's Oath" but it becomes a concern the harder you think Y2K will hit. If you think it's the 3 day snowstorm, ha ha, nobody is going to rob you of your stash anyhow.

I don't know. I solved this dilemma by telling all my friends to look into this matter because I thought it was deadly serious. Then I stashed all my stuff someplace they don't know about.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), June 17, 1999.

I thought the Doomers oath was:

Regardless of fact, and ignoring common sense, I Doomer (Andy, Milne, INVARiably stupid, etc.) will hope and pray for the end of the world with all my tiny little heart. Amen.

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), June 17, 1999.

At my last job, I talked to everyone that would listen. Then 2 of them at different times "jokingly" said " I don't need to prepare as long as you are". Well, that did it for me. A few days later I told them I was stashing my stuff at a freinds house out in the country. Haven't tried to convince anyone since (except my wife and daughter- they DWGI)I see the sense in talking to my neighbors but to be honest I'm afraid to. Damned if you do-damned if you don't. Time to move farther out, I think.

-- (rcarver@inacom.com), June 17, 1999.

Clause 2 (left out of the original message for some reason)

"I promise to try to the best of my ability to cast doubt upon ANY and ALL who would purport to spread any and all good news about Y2k remediation efforts presently underway.

"Such good-news efforts undermine the efforts of those of us who are engaged in sales of survival supplies/books/tutorials/doomer financial advice/gold and silver coins; those of us who are trying to overthrow the present order; those of us who are just plain whacked out to begin with; and those of us who resent the happiness and success of others who have 'made it' under the present system.

"THEREFORE, be it resolved, that we will question, cavil, naysay, harass, nitpick, criticize, and otherwise poo-poo any and all reports or statements that tend towards "good news" about Y2k. No matter if these statements come from a credible source, including the Almighty Himself."

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seal.........Gary N. Beelzebub, 33rd Degree

-- Chicken Little (panic@forthebirds.net), June 17, 1999.

When I wrote above that "I've never told ANYONE the complete amount", I meant just that. Although I've divulged a lot on this message board, there are still MANY things I've haven't disclosed. The full scope will remain secret.

I'm gonna prep til I drop.

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 17, 1999.

Hey Y2K Pro (cadet): what is your purpose here? I mean really?

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), June 17, 1999.

Prep till you drop?

Best news I've heard all day.

Then maybe you cloud seeders will stay in your little hermit abodes, and never bother the rest of the sane-thinking world again. Not for six months, anyway. Or however long you 'prepare' for.

-- Chicken Little (panic@forthebirds.net), June 17, 1999.

I stopped all the "well, if you're preparing then I don't need to" talk at the office. It was really easy.

I hung a man shaped/sized target on my wall with 6 holes punched in the 10 ring. Small anontation at the bottom says range 300 yd, time 11 seconds.

Before all you waddies start to doubt my abilities you should come out an watch me using a pen to punch those holes. I can actually do it faster than 11 seconds but didn't want to brag.

-Greybear

-- Got reloads?

-- Greybear (greybear@home.com), June 17, 1999.

Feller:

What is your purpose here? On earth? I mean really.

Is it to spread fear, panic, and doubt?

Inquiring minds want to know.

-- Chicken Little (panic@forthebirds.net), June 17, 1999.

Greybear

don't doubt your abilities........(hey...I could take you and your car out before you hit my driveway if need be)

just your sanity

(good litmus test of what Y2k extremism produces, heh)

-- Chicken Little (panic@forthebirds.net), June 17, 1999.

Chicken Little:

I meant preparing from morning until bedtime.

If I die, my family knows where to find most of the provisions, so they won't starve --unless the neighbors break in first, but, hey, would I really care at that point?

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 18, 1999.

Greybear:

Clever, very clever.

Got copies?

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 18, 1999.

Chicken Little: Fear, Panic and Doubt are not my bag. You support a cadet, not a pro. I see cumulative effects undermining the public. I see a misinformed public. A public blatantly lied to. A public Fed tidbits by a cadet and chicken crossing the road together. If the public see's the roadkill, it will be too late for the public by-and- large. Sometimes exaggeration sets the proverbial fire under rears of the Public. The public needs a dousing of alcohol on the exterior with some sparks popping at their periphery, as opposed to ingesting it and hiding potential for painful realities. The language used by the Milne's, Andy's and Invariables are simple attention getters to wake you up. If you can try to flap those chicken wings and get above the trees so you can see the forest, you may surprise yourself. You may see the potential for all hell to break loose. If you care, you would try to diminish that potential for hell. I think you'ld rather raise it.

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), June 18, 1999.

All a POLLY would have to do to realize that something big was up as far as Y2K is concerned is to read the posts on this forum tonight. CNN had something interesting on gun sales tonight ---- Sales of guns are up 20% for the year. Somewhere, somepeople, for some reason are buying guns. Insurance? On Cory Hamasaki's thread today he used the term "Broomies" to discribe the Pollyies. You 'gotta' love that one. I can just see all the Pollyies [Broomies] busily sweeping all this Y2K stuff under the edges of the rug. Guess what folks, those piles are getting so high that they're starting to trip over them. LOL

-- thinkIcan (thinkIcan@make.it), June 18, 1999.

Chicken,

how's the job at planet hollywood?

Bwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahah

"Pro"

Regardless of fact, and ignoring common sense, I Doomer (Andy, Milne, INVARiably stupid, etc.) will hope and pray for the end of y2k pro with all my heart. Amen.

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), June 17, 1999.

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-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), June 18, 1999.

Debunkies down, and he doesn't have anybody to play with. WAAHHHH!

-- R. Wright (blaklodg@hotmail.com), June 18, 1999.

Too little too late. I live in a small town and have been shopping at Costco regularly. Hard to be subtle about camping gear, 35 gallon water barrels, batteries galore, water filters, 25 lb boxes of buttermilk pancake mix etc...

Today the woman behind me asked if I was preparing for Y2k. I gulped and said yes. She said "good for you, the more people who prepare the better." My cashier said "My whole family is preparing, My job is the camping equipment, my Mom is taking care of food, my brother is taking care of gasoline, propane and firewood." When I asked her if lots of people were stocking up she said "Oh yes, your not wierd at all." I just about passed out from the shock. Then she said I would need to get a new membership card as the old ones were being retired since they weren't Y2k compliant!!!!

In any event I have made it clear to everyone that I am leaving town long before TSHTF. Don't need to be around when our local sewage system fails anyway.

-- R (riversoma@aol.com), June 18, 1999.

Getting a little sensitive in that strait-jacket little Andy?

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), June 18, 1999.

Chicken Little- That's about the only person I would believe at this point in time. So unless God Almighty has personally told you there is no need to prepare, maybe you should get started.

-- sue (deco100@aol.com), June 18, 1999.

River, I had a similar experience at Sam's a few weeks ago. The couple behind us had their cart loaded with 5 big bags of dog food, and a variety of other bulk staples (2 50 lb. bags of rice, 4 big bags of pinto beans, case of toilet paper, etc.) We looked at their cart (trying to be discreet -- don't you know), and they looked at ours. The men exchanged 'knowing' nods and the women both smiled. Both couples then visually scanned the others waiting in other lines; more subtle glances were exchanged as other obvious "GI's" with preparations were spotted. Made us feel a little better that at least a few other people were doing something.

-- Wilferd (WilferdW@aol.com), June 18, 1999.

It seems the straight-jacket will be fitting you nicely in short order Y2k Pro (Cadet) and it won't be too long before you'll be trying it on

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), June 18, 1999.

..uhh, snappy comeback Smeller..snicker...

-- Y2K Pro (2@641.com), June 18, 1999.

I tell whoever about my preps. I don't expect the grocery store shelves to be bare next year. Food prices alot higher with my family's income alot lower is what I expect. But if I'm wrong and the shelves are bare, few people know me well enough to find my house and those that do would be welcome. The DGI's I like the most have already gotten invites in that event. They might laugh or smile about it now, or laugh and smile about it next year - doesn't matter. I'd rather have a few dozen people here if TSHTF than just a half dozen.

-- Gus (y2kk@usa.net), June 18, 1999.

While I agree that what one does in their own home with their family is their business, I don't agree about being silent on Y2K. I think we should talk about it at work, and talk about it with friends and family. We should encourage people like pshannon and our new (?) Tracy to keep spreading the word. The more GIs, the better for all of us. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 18, 1999.

Sysman. I think that is the "real point" about Y2k. You keep your personal security private while pulsing information in an inoffensive way. Many people take offense and react. That reaction sets another reaction. The second reaction is greater than the first in that a G.I. wants to convince there is a problem, but by doing so, the counter reaction is even greater. This reaction "game of tennis" continues to escalate and we end up with the profound arguements such as the intense regulars here still hashing it out. I think some have long ago lost the forest for the trees. It has turned into the "watch me improve TODAY, on my return". The hardcore participants obvious need each other, otherwise what would you do with yourselves. Really!

Certainly there is alot of scepticism when G.I.'s pull rabbits out of their hats, proving Y2k's seriousness. Those are real rabbits by the way. I think there is integrity found in enough G.I.'s here to keep this forum going at a healthy pace. Those who support preparation in the face of unknowns reflect another deminsion of that integrity. Keep it up if you care and be a thorn if you don't care. It is not difficult to see who has honorable intentions. The ones who don't want you to starve!

-- Feller (feller@wanna.help), June 19, 1999.

Very good, Feller. You nailed that one exactly!

-- jor-el (jor-el@krypton.uni), June 20, 1999.