We need a Patriot!

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Any chance we can, via the internet, start a movement for a "SPECIAL ELECTION" for the immediate replacement of clinton, her husband, al and throw in tipper too! With the problems we have going on in the world today, and the problems we face soon, we need a leader in the White House! Can we get George Bush back in office at least until the 2000 elections? Even if you don't agree with everyone of his policies you have to agree that he, or somebody like him, needs to takeover driving the bus for awhile this trip.

Pollys through Serious GI's! Can we all agree that no matter what happens, we need to change drivers as soon as possible?

-- BiGG (supersite@acronet.net), June 17, 1999

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BiGG,

Now that we are having a pipe dream here, why stop at them? How about that senate and congress, the real root of the problem!

Y2K bill went through the senate today, imposing limits, but just short of 2/3 majority allowing Clinton a veto if he chooses. Same old Same old....

-- R. Wright (blaklodg@hotmail.com), June 17, 1999.


Bigg, you forget that WE most likely are a minority, the GI's and the ones that didn't vote for Slick Willy x2!!! I think the polly's probably voted for Clinton or threw their votes away by voting independent or libertarian. The fact that we've got big problems in store with y2k AND the fact that we've got boneheads at the wheel and spineless jellyfish in congress makes me really want to blow the chow-chow.

-- Barb (awaltrip@telepath.com), June 17, 1999.

Did you know that a chow-chow is a dog?

-- Really (just@wondering.org), June 17, 1999.

youR Wright! (sorry I couldn't help myself) How could I have been so narrow-minded and forget them? Must be I was thinking about the ones that get on my nerves the most.

-- BiGG (supersite@acronet.net), June 17, 1999.

We need a damned miracle worker, not another political moron. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.


Well, suffice it to say we won't be voting for Gore. Any Mr. Internet who hasn't addressed Y2K forcibly in 1998 is no-high-tech. Anyway, if he really *were* in-the-know, he'd be posting right here! We still are voting for Arnie Rimmer as Prez at this point.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Sysman,

For some reason, I do believe that miracle man is in the cards!

-- R. Wright (blaklodg@hotmail.com), June 17, 1999.


Charlton Heston for President!

Actually, I think there's a much better chance of making snowmen in death valley in august...

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), June 17, 1999.


I've been watching it people and I can't find a single demoplublican I want to vote for. Is there any prominent Patriots left?

-- R. Wright (blaklodg@hotmail.com), June 17, 1999.

Right-wing resurrection eh ? Throw out Clinton and "appoint" someone stronger huh ? Get a REAL leader right ? Interesting . . .

I think theres a candidate who may soon be available. (You'd just need to organise a rushed-through green card and citizenship deal- no biggie. This IS an emergency after all, why worry about the usual "niceties")

Hes a hard-line right winger, christian, staunch patriot and nationalist, so he'll appeal to all those of you who think back wistfully to the "glory" days of Georgie Busch, (I'm assuming youre all either Texan oil millionaires, commodities traders, arms industry CEO's or members of the 5% privilaged classes).

This guy doesnt flinch at making the hard decisions and carrying through. Even if his methods may be "a tad" brutal and obnoxious . . (y'all dont mind that huh ?) So long as he gets the job done. And he's experienced. He's fried bigger eggs than Y2K, you bet.

So, the ideal candidate awaits your call. He may be in search of a new job sometime soon anyhow. And I'm betting he'd love the chance to get his itchy little fingers on those shiny red nuclear buttons. So dont forget to vote once his name is on the roster (after all, its probably the last time you'll get the chance if he wins).

Anyone interested should contact him . . .

Mr S. Milosevic Government Bunker No 214 Belgrade Imperial Serbia Europe.

He's clearly the man for the job. That "Democracy" nonsense is over- rated right ? Got liberty ?

-- Youre on the (slippery@slope.again), June 17, 1999.



I would like to see a push to admit that letting China have so much technology was a "Bad Thing", and bring back fall-out shelters and civil-defense training.

Wouldn't fly, but the dialog might give BJ Clinton some heartburn!

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@Anonymous99.xxx), June 17, 1999.


Yes!!! Let's bring back Reagan Bush and Company. It took this country years to become less than a trillion $ in debt, but it only took Reagan and Bush 12 years to add 4 trillion $ to it. And who prospered from this. The 1% of the wealthiest people in the world adding to their coffers.

And who slashed all the environmental laws so that we sell our natural resources overseas dirt cheap? And who gave special allowances to corporate ranchers, while driving the small farmers out of business, and who gave multi-national corporations special tax breaks and subsidies for expansion and overseas advertising and development, while taxpayers footed the bill, and who was responsible for the massive Savings and Loan Scandal? Remember Keating, Hurwitz and the Baby Bush who had his own Savings and Loan debacle.

And who put James Watt in charge of seeing that the environment was raped, slashed and sold to the cheapest bidder while intimidating those trying to protect what little we have left, making his famous statement that "If we can't solve our problems in the jury box, maybe we should use the cartridge box."

And from Sacred Cows at the Public Trough., "the cowboys didn't really want the public land. They only wanted to put federal employees back in line, to dominate the use of public land, and to keep milking the federal treasury." Watt arranged it through his Good Neighbor policy, which did not include small farmers and ranchers.

Yes Roanld Reagan was an amiable member of GAB (give away boys) but only to his weathy friends. And good old Bush didn't forget his friends either, from The New York Times, "Six year after the arms-for-hostages scandal began to cast a shadow that would darken two Administrations, President Bush today granded full pardon to six former officials of Ronald Reagan's Administration..." Now wasn't that nice--and on Christmas Eve too.

It was also nice that person or persons unknown put the kabosh on the press about Georgie's little "personal affairs" too.

Clinton may be nothing but a serial womanizer, but he would have to be a lot sharper than he is to play with the big boys. Clinton probably wouldn't balk at raping a one-eyed unicorn, but when it comes to rape, Reagan Bush and Co., aided the rape of the S & L industry, the stockmarket (Boesky, Millikin), aided gun runners and the biggest rape of all, the planet earth; timber, oil, ranching, mining, oceans, etc ad nauseum

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 17, 1999.


I'm with Mad Monk all the way....Heston is the only guy I've seen so far that might even come close to fittin' the bill. The only patriots left are about to have their numbers slashed even lower. Is there any law against 'crying' on the American flag?

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 17, 1999.

Well now we're not gonna vote for Bush Take II either. Isn't there anybody NEW and IMPROVED out there? Can't the spin cycle offer a bright color? Huh? How come Arnie Rimmer doesn't even campaign? Politics, for the dogs, ptoohey.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

Jesse !

Jesse !

Jesse !

I would love to see him body slam a few of those empty suiters in DC.

-- br14 (br14@bout.done), June 17, 1999.



George Bush (the old fart) is one of those NWO sh*t heads. His kid is no different. Yes, C. Heston would make a great Pres., but would he even want the job? I started a thread sometime back about some guy from the east coast, maybe New England, who was considering a run for the Presidency. I don't recall his name, Smith maybe? Anyway, he was a patriot. I'd vote for him.

-- rick (I'mset@home.house), June 17, 1999.

I found it. http://www.wcco.com/news/stories/news-990519-110829.html

-- rick (I'mset@home.house), June 17, 1999.

br14...I'd get a kick out of THAT myself! Let's just open up a can a WOOP-ASS!!!!HAHAAHAHA

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 17, 1999.

what we need is a good Pharoah,things run smoothly when your government is your god,but not speaking for your god,that's something else entirely

-- zoobie (zoobiezoob@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

H.L. Mencken said something like "Democracy is the theory that the common fold deserve to get what they want -- good and hard!"

The problem with Klinton, and government in general is that most people are idiots, and the subset of most people who are voters are also idiots. No way an intelligent, perceptive few can EVER outvote the idiots.

This country started off with a very limited franchise, and as it has been expanded, it has been going down the tubes, accelerating as it goes.

The only cure is collapse. TEOTWAWKI.

If not TEOTWAWKI, you're gonna get Gore or Bush Jr. or some other character combining doofism with fascism. So what if Klinton f***s around. That's not the problem. Try Whitwater, Travelgate, Vince Foser, Ron Brown, Chinagate, etc. Grow up!

-- A (A@AisA.com), June 17, 1999.


This deal with Bush seems a little fishy to me. Supposedly he, too, has a past plagued with scandal and debauchery. What's going to happen when the democrats reap their revenge on George Jr. after what the Republicans did (rightly or wrongly) to Bill Clinton? All it takes is a few skeletons, and Bush seems to have more than a few...

Another odd thing is how quickly the GOP is declaring him the "winner" before the people even got a chance to vote, as if the whole process is rigged in some way. Why do they want HIM so badly and not someone like McCain or Bauer? Why doesn't he have any opinions yet? He seems to be riding on a momentum based solely on gubernatorial experience and personality, not issues.

Another odd thing about the Bush family is that it was in power while that wacky stuff was going on at Mena airport in Governor Clinton's Arkansas. In the '80s, Arkansas was bar-none the BEST place from which to launch covert CIA (or CIA-linked) operations to destabilize Central America and to funnel illegal money into black budgets and slush funds.

Now that story is just that. A story...paranoid, unsubstantiated internet rumomrs. But there may be more than a grain of truth to it, and seeing how everybody's rushing to "kiss the ring" of the son of a long-time CIA Big Wig (George Sr.), it makes me suspicious. George W. just might have it "made" in the mafia sense of the word.

Another problem with Jr. is that he's up to his neck in oil money. Do we really want to be ruled by a man who is so buddy-buddy with all those corporate giants as well as the house of Saud?

Maybe Bush is better than another Clinton. I think so. But seriously, this will be the first election where i've abandoned the Repudlicrats. Libertarian all the way, woooweee!!

-- coprolith II (coprolith@rocketship.com), June 17, 1999.


This may be the first election where the election is abandoned.

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 17, 1999.

"We, the people, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Read the first three words again. Those words, in that sentence, were written over two centuries ago.

Now, from the New World Dictionary of the American Language, second college edition, comes the following:

posterity n. 1. all of a person's descendants; 2. all succeeding generations; future mankind.

IOW, the Founding Fathers created this nation not only for themselves and their descendents, but also for you, too.

Now, after reading all this, I shouldn't have to point out to you that the "Patriot," the "Hero," the "Leader," the "Savior" you all cry for is YOU. But, as you can see, I did.

Based on the record, I don't expect to see such Heroic Leadership appear within my rapidly shortening lifetime.

B. Franklin described what he and his colleagues had created with one word inserted in the beginning of a short sentence. That sentence ended with a condition. When asked what they had made, he replied, "A republic, if you can keep it."

The record shows that too few of "my fellow Americans" want to keep it. If they did, they would not have allowed it's destruction through subversive acts of avarice.

You, the American people, have tacitly chosen to reject the truths that privilege demands sacrifice, and with authority must come responsibility.

But, you do have a chicken in every one of your pots, don't you?

-- LP (soldog@nohotmail.com), June 17, 1999.


Libertarian gets my vote. It has always seemed to me that the American people are always looking for a hero, no matter how unlikely. It doesn't take much to make them groveling and filled with awe. I've even seen it on this forum. People who need heroes, want someone to take responsibility for them.

It's also why I think so many attribute good luck to God. They need a Daddy figure to hold their hand, to be able to call on, and to lead them to do the right thing as they may not have the strength to do it themselves.

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 17, 1999.


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