You all have filped your lids? What is going on with you people? I'v heard about y2k on the raido and in the news on TV but this is crazy! Why in the world would you think its going to be the end of time? I can see some layoffs but not the end. Get a grip people, 2000 will come and go like every year. Except for maybe a little more of a party this year :o) Rooster

-- Rooster Cogburn (Laughing@youfools.wow), June 16, 1999

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hey Rooster,

Can I have you home address so I know where to direct the rioters in the unlikely event that your wrong?

-- (here come @ the rooster. oh yeah), June 16, 1999.

We come from your computer room.

-- Reporter (reporter_atlarge@hotmail.com), June 16, 1999.

We were hatched under the swamp rocks! And you might hear about Y2K sometime next year ... heeheeheeheehehhehehehe ... who will get the last laugh?

-- Ashton & Leska in Cascadia (allaha@earthlink.net), June 16, 1999.

Rooster

If you've gotten your Y2K information from just the sources you mentioned, then your opinion is understandable.

"Planes will not fall from the sky... blah blah blah..."

We'll see who is the fool soon enough. Watch your drumsticks next year.

-- Dog Gone (layinglow@rollover.now), June 16, 1999.

Why is Mr. Rooster and the other polly's here? Are they just surfing the net and come across this forum or are they looking specifically for Y2k. If they are looking for Y2k, WHY? I have never understood this.

People either believe or they don't. If one does not believe, then why waste time coming to a place that is intent on sharing information against his/her belief.

My vote is delete the Rooster. He is taking up space.

-- Linda A. (adahi@muhlon.com), June 16, 1999.

Ok I did stumble on this fourm because someone sent me the addy. I will research this some more and then tell you what I think. But I do think this is crazy, life will go on even if computers have problems.

-- Rooster (Laughing@youfools.wow), June 16, 1999.

We're just a bunch of amateurs. The pro's are over at http://www.nwc.navy.mil/dsd/y2ksited/y2kproj.htm and you'll probably find them a lot more interesting than we are.

-- Ken Seger (kenseger@earthlink.net), June 16, 1999.

Good idea. Try reading the Senate Report for starters. It is a bit dated, but will give you a better "clue" than TV, radio, or the mainstream press. Then, by all means, "report" back to us.

-- regular (zzz@z.z), June 16, 1999.

We come from your computer room.

-- Reporter (reporter_atlarge@hotmail.com),

That was priceless!

This DG is tollerable, just had his first brush with y2k wall of enlightenment that's all. I vote NOT to delete.

Good hunting Rooster

-- MidwestMike_ (midwestmike_@hotmail.com), June 16, 1999.

Take a wild guess who dispatched him.

-- Lisa (lisa@work.now), June 16, 1999.

I agree with MidwestMike. Give him a enough rope ...

DJ

-- DJ (reality@check.com), June 16, 1999.

Rooster? Rooster? Are you there?

(Oh well, maybe he's off reading the Senate report.)

:)

-- FM (vidprof@aol.com), June 16, 1999.

Geeeeze. You guys are too much! Are we having any fun yet? (I should have waited to milk the goat!)

-- Will continue (farming@home.com), June 16, 1999.

Gee rooster, I think I (and most of the forum participants) are preparing exactly as though for a layoff. So what's the problem??

-- Brooks (brooksbie@hotmail.com), June 16, 1999.

I believe 'foghorn leghorn' is one of the lost DWGI's from freerepublic.com....a current member the future "Mass of Humanity Panic Club".

-- Mike T. (anita_martini@hotmail.com), June 16, 1999.

Rooster,

We're people who have read this article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/daily/feb99/y2k24.htm

[snip]

Senate Study: Y2K Risks Are Widespread

By Stephen Barr

Washington Post Staff Writer

Wednesday, February 24, 1999; Page A1

A report on the Year 2000 computer problem prepared by a special Senate panel warns that a number of foreign countries and U.S. economic sectors, especially the health care industry, appear at significant risk for technological failures and business disruptions.

The report, scheduled for release this week by Sens. Robert F. Bennett (R-Utah) and Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), includes a letter to Senate colleagues describing the problem of computers' ability to recognize dates starting on Jan. 1, 2000, popularly known as Y2K, as a "worldwide crisis" and as "one of the most serious and potentially devastating events this nation has ever encountered."

The prospect of widespread computer glitches and lobbying by industry groups have galvanized bipartisan groups in the Senate and House to press for legislation protecting companies that fail to deliver goods and services on time because of Y2K problems.

Rep. David Dreier (R-Calif.) estimated yesterday there might be $1 trillion in lawsuits filed because of the glitch and urged adoption of an industry-backed House bill to allay "a great deal of fear regarding out-of-control litigation."

A draft copy of the Senate report, provided by staff aides to The Washington Post, describes in vivid detail the scope of the potential Y2K problem and the frustrations that Senate investigators encountered as they tried to gather information from industries reluctant to describe what progress they have made in fixing computer and telecommunication systems.

But the report represents the most comprehensive assessment of the Y2K problem to appear as companies and governments scramble to fix their computer systems. In addition to health care, the report portrays the oil, education, farming, food processing and construction sectors as seriously lagging on computer repairs.

Among the report's findings: More than 90 percent of doctors' offices and 50 percent of small- and medium-sized companies have not addressed the Y2K problem; telephone systems are expected to operate; and planes will not fall out of the sky. The Senate panel also worries that communities will not be able to provide "911" and other emergency services.

Even though governments and corporations have mobilized technology staffs and consultants to sift through millions of lines of software code looking for Y2K glitches, the 161-page draft also underscores how little experts know about the potential impact of the so-called millennium bug.

"The interdependent nature of technology systems makes the severity of possible disruptions difficult to predict. Adding to the confusion, there are still very few overall Year 2000 technology compliance assessments of infrastructure or industry sectors. Consequently, the fundamental questions of risk and personal preparedness cannot be answered at this time," the draft said.

Clinton administration officials have portrayed the Y2K problem as similar to a severe winter snowstorm that causes inconveniences but little lasting harm. Yesterday, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan assured Americans that they can keep their money in the bank over New Year's 2000 without fear.

"There's almost no conceivable way . . . that computers will break down and records of people's savings accounts would disappear," he told the Senate Banking Committee.

Still, almost all government agencies are drawing up emergency plans, including the Fed, which plans to stockpile an extra $200 billion in cash for banks, about a third more than usual.

The Senate report, which grew out of a series of hearings last year by the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem, concludes "that the biggest Y2K impact will occur internationally."

Two important trading partners, Japan and Venezuela, seem to have miscalculated the time and money needed to fix the computer glitch, according to the draft report.

Relying on surveys by consultants, the report suggests that Japan "may have underestimated the resources needed to address the problem," noting that major Japanese banks have indicated far lower repair costs than U.S. banks.

Venezuela and Saudi Arabia lag from a year to 18 months behind the United States in Y2K preparations, raising concerns about the availability of oil and other critical imports, the report said.

International ports are widely described as far behind in their Y2K efforts, prompting worries that the maritime industry will face shipping problems that could interrupt commerce, the report added.

International aviation and foreign airports also appear at risk, and "flight rationing to some areas and countries is possible," the report said.

Overall, the report said, "the least-prepared countries are those that depend heavily on foreign investment and multinational companies to supplement their economies. Panic over Y2K concerns may cause investors to withdraw financial support. Lack of confidence in a country's infrastructure could cause multinational companies to close their operations."

[snip]

In assessing U.S. preparedness, the draft report reserved some of its strongest language for the health care industry, concluding it "is one of the worst-prepared for Y2K and carries a significant potential for harm."

The industry relies on computers for patient treatment, insurance claims and pharmaceutical manufacturing and distribution. While large hospitals are pushing to fix their computers, the report described hospital management as "playing a catch-up game."

Many hospitals are relying solely on medical device manufacturers to certify products as Y2K-compliant, which the report said "could be a serious mistake."

The report cited rural and inner-city hospitals as at special risk because they do not have the staff or money to find and fix Y2K glitches.

In an effort to head off a potential avalanche of lawsuits caused by Y2K glitches, a bipartisan group of House members yesterday introduced a bill to address litigation issues. Sen. John McCain (R- Ariz.) has introduced a similar bill, and Sens. Orrin G. Hatch (R- Utah) and Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) plan to announce their version today.

Although the House bill has the support of major business organizations, Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), the measure's principal author, stressed that the measure was "pro-consumer" because it will "encourage businesses to come in and fix their problems."

The Year 2000 Readiness and Responsibility Act would require plaintiffs to give notice to potential defendants about their difficulties, wait 30 days for a response and give the defendant an additional 60 days to fix a glitch before suing.

Under the bill, plaintiffs may recover actual damages, but punitive damages would be capped.

Staff writer Guy Gugliotta contributed to this report.

) Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company

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-- Linkmeister (link@librarian.edu), June 16, 1999.

Perhaps "Rooster" is our friend "Chicken Little" in a different guise?

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), June 16, 1999.

Wasn't Rooster Cogburn a one-eyed drunk?

-- alien (alien@onthis.planet), June 16, 1999.

Some of us are long time computer professionals (33 years in my case, with an emphasys on software maintenance). Many are working in critical industries or have worked in them (distribution, banking, military, insurance, etc. in my case). Some of us have endured major natural disasters (hurricanes, earthquakes, cyclones, etc.). Many of us care about our families and communities.

Others are totally oblivious.

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), June 16, 1999.

Don't worry Rooster- just set the date back on your coffeemaker- no problemo. It's just a bump in the road.......

-- farmer (hillsidefarm@drbs.net), June 16, 1999.

A "one-eyed fat man", actually. Leastways, that's what Ned Pepper called him, just a-fore Rooster risked life, limb, and dentures to charge Ned at full gallop...

-- Mac (sneak@lurk.hid), June 16, 1999.

Now just tell me why you would want to delete pollys, trolls, gadflys, grumps, religious zealots, goofballs and creative cussers? If you did, this would be the most boring forum on the Net. I can hear it now, "Let's all get together and agree how bad it's going to be, and then let's all start a topic on how many guns, dogs, matches, buckets of wheat, buckets of cornmeal, buckets of rice, buckets of oatmeal, buckets of lentils, and on and on ad nauseam.

Down with Delete!

-- gilda (jess@listbot.com), June 16, 1999.

A&L,

If it's a bump, the laughs will be on us. Anything else and their will be no laughs. I can deal with the crow.

-- MidwestMike_ (midwestmike_@hotmail.com), June 16, 1999.

Rooster,

First clue, the Commander in Briefs has been wagging his finger on this one.

Second clue, spin machine in"overdrive."

-- (snowleopard6@webtv.net), June 16, 1999.

Rooster: presuming you are sincere (not just another in a long line of eminently forgettable trolls), go to my website and look up the "Suggested Readings" and "Other Links" articles. READ all the books and at least spend ~60 hours on Gary North's site at a minimum, and see if you hold the same opinion of Y2K.

site: www.y2ksafeminnesota.com

-- MinnesotaSmith (y2ksafeminnesota@hotmail.com), June 16, 1999.

Let's humor the Rooster. He is probably bored and just looking for a friendly little cockfight.

-- Betty Alice (Barn266@aol.com), June 16, 1999.

Howdy Rooster,

I'm a regular here, but have been down the shore for a few days and haven't been on-line. I've been a programmer for 31 years. In fact, I did a survey a while ago, and we have at least 875 man-years of programming experience hanging out here. Many of us think we will have big problems due to Y2K. While a few do think it will be TEOTWAWKI, I think it's fair to say that most of don't expect that. We are just preparing for possible problems.

Here's a better link for the Senate report:

HTML Senate Report on Y2K with bookmarks

And while this isn't actually related to Y2K, take a look at this link, and think about it for a while:

I, Pencil

And, here's something else to think about:

Year 2000 Preparation Archive Top Level

Hang with us for a while. Maybe you'll learn something. <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 16, 1999.

Rooster needs a booster. Shock the cock. No henpecking now...

-- Randolph (dinosaur@williams-net.com), June 16, 1999.

SysTMaN!!!!!!!

dieTEr woNDErS If yOu weAR A baTHInG CaP OVeR YouR LonG FLowINg trESSeS?????????? doEs sySTmAN GeT SUnbuRN WIth A whITe STriPE doWN thE MIddLE WheRE THe "taIL" HAngS???????? WheN In daNGEr oF GOinG UNdER FOr tHE LAsT TIMe, DoES paMELa anDErSOn drAG tHe SYstmAN asHOrE By HiS LocKS, oGG THe caVEMaN STyLE??????????

-- Dieter (questions@toask.com), June 17, 1999.

Hi Dieter, how's it going?

"DoES paMELa anDErSOn drAG tHe SYstmAN asHOrE By HiS LocKS, oGG THe caVEMaN STyLE??????????"

Well, she ain't quite the woman that Pam is, but not all that far off. Tell me more about "caveman style." I don't think we've tried that one yet... <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

THaT Is wHEN She drAGs yOu In By tHE HAir, cLUBs YoU ABOuT The heAD fOr A bIT, aND THeN MAkeS YoU CLeaN THe caVE!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Dieter (questions@toask.com), June 17, 1999.

I PASS - good thing she's not watching this - I could be in big troulbe!!! Ssshhhhhhh... <:)=

-- Sysman (y2kboard@yahoo.com), June 17, 1999.

I just want everyone to know that I've never filped anything. I was raised in a good home.

Rooster-- One of the most intereating things I've come across lately is this web site, at the Naval War College: Year 2000 International Security Dimension Project Summary. It opens with

Our summary brief has already been presented to the following entities (in addition to representatives from other organizations who attended one or more of our four workshops to date; see below):

Vice Chief of Naval Operations

Under Secretary of the Navy

N3/5, OPNAV

J7 Staff, Joint Staff

J38, Joint Staff

J2 Y2K Planning Cell, Joint Staff

Principle Deputy and Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for C3I

University of Virginia

Defense Intelligence Agency Central Intelligence Agency

National Intelligence Council Y2K NIE Team

Cantor Fitzgerald LP

Center for Naval Analyses

Y2K National Contingency Planning Group, Government of Canada

J2/J3 Staff of Joint Force Headquarters, Government of Canada

Chief of Naval Operations, Republic of Turkey

Staff, U.S. Senate Special Committee for the Year 2000 Technology Problem

US Atlantic Command Staff

Department of Defense Intelligence Information Systems (DoDIIS) 1999 Global Conference

Defense Intelligence Agency's Directorate of Intelligence Operations Staff.

Dr. Barnett and Prof. Kamradt are currently scheduling more briefs with a wide variety of governmental and non-governmental entities.

Presentations already scheduled include:

US Central Command Staff (23 June)

Chief Information Officer, Department of Navy (2 July)

USAF Chief of Staff (8 July)

US Southern Command Staff (27 July)

Electric Power Research Institute's Y2K Embedded Chip Workshop (2 August).

It's nice to know other folks are thinking about this business.

-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), June 17, 1999.

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-- Tom Carey (tomcarey@mindspring.com), June 17, 1999.

More religious zealots!

-- Mad Monk (madmonk@hawaiian.net), June 17, 1999.

In case anyone has missed Sysman's admission to being from N.J., note the phrase "down the shore" in his first post here. Knew instantly I was reading a fellow Jerseyan's post.

-- Thinman (thinman38@hotmail.com), June 17, 1999.

Dieter has spoken! No can deleto the Roostah-man now! (Born Marion Morrison in real life.)

Forum come alive! Yeah!

(Half the fun is the taxonomy of trolls. Figuring out what sub- species they be. Sub-sub, etc......)

-- jor-el (jor-el@krypton.uni), June 17, 1999.