Nik has already posted on this meeting and list. Now if we can only get a set of audio tapes.

What is troubling is that this esteemed group has more influence over our President than congress. Can anyone tell me if the Pope is a regular attendee at these meetings? I would think he would send his ambassador.

How about some input on what their agenda is...

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Clinton, pope join Bilderbergers Secret meeting of global movers, shakers in Portugal

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) 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

What do Steven Spielberg, Pope John Paul II, Ted Turner, Boris Yeltsin, Bill Clinton and House Speaker Dennis Hastert have in common? They are among those on a "partial guest list" of expected attendees to the 1999 Bilderberg meeting in Portugal scheduled for next week. The secret meeting in Sintra, Portugal, takes place June 3-6. According to sources which have penetrated the high-security meetings in the past, the Bilderberg meetings emphasize a globalist agenda and promote the idea that the notion of national sovereignty is antiquated and regressive.

In 1998, British free-lance journalist Campbell Thomas who attempted to cover the conference in Turnberry, Scotland, for the Daily Mail. Thomas began by seeking the opinions of neighbors to the secret meeting being held nearby. One of those was a young woman who told him he was in the hotel's staff quarters and should leave immediately, which he did.

A short while later, two local police officers arrested Thomas, who reportedly remained in custody for eight hours.

According to the Portugal News, an English-language weekly paper attempting to cover the 1999 meeting, not all journalists are treated quite so harshly.

"Margarida Marante, an extremely successful television journalist with the Portuguese television channel SIC, is alleged to have been invited to attend this year's Bilderberg group meeting in Sintra," the paper reports. "The television presenter declined to make any comments to the News through her press secretary. The News was, after three days of making phone calls and waiting, given the following response: 'Dr. Margarida Marante prefers not to respond (to the News' allegations that she will be attending the Bilderberg meeting), and with all due respect to our publication, she is very busy."

The paper also reports that Prime Minister Ant[nio Guterres, listed his attendance at the 1994 Bilderberg conference on his personal CV at the government Internet site. Guterres was made prime minister the following year, and his name has not appeared on the "guest lists" since that date, according to the News.

Here is the partial guest list obtained by WorldNetDaily:

Ackerman, Duane - CEO Bell South Ahern, Bertie - Prime Minister of Ireland Alberthal, Les - CEO of Electronic Data Systems (EDS) Albright, Madeleine - U.S. Secretary of State Al Saud, Waleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz - Saudi Prince Amichai, Yehuda - Israeli poet Annan, Kofi - U.N. Secretary General Arafat, Yasser - Chairman Palestinian Authority Armstrong, Michael - CEO of AT&T Corrporation Arison, Ted - Israeli Financier Assad, Hafez - President of Syria Aznar, Jose Maria - President of Spain Belluzzo, Richard - CEO - Silicon Graphics-SGI Berkshire Hathaway - Warren Buffet Bolkiah, Hassanal - The Sultan of Brunei Byers, Brook - Partner KPCB Beyster, J. R. - Founder and CEO of SAIC Bialkin, Ken - Skadden Arps bin-Mohamad, Mahathir - PM of Malaysia Blair, Tony - Prime Minister of UK Bondevik, Kjell Magne - Prime Minister of Norway Bonsignore, Michael - CEO Honeywell Braverman, Avishai - President of Ben-Gurion University Bronfman, Charles - Canadian businessman Buffet, Warren, CEO Berkshire Hathaway Cardoso, Fernando Henrique - President of Brazil Case, Daniel - Chairman & CEO of H& Q Case, Stephen - CEO of America On-Line-AOL Caufield, Frank - AOL Board & Partner KPCB Cayne, James - CEO of Bear Stearn Chalsty, John - CEO of DLJ Chambers, John - CEO of Cisco Systems Chirac, Jacques - President of Franc Chretien, Jean - Prime Minister of Canada Clinton, Bill - President of the United States Cohen, Abby - Market Strategist, Goldman Sachs Corzine, Jon - CEO of Goldman Sachs Coulter, David - Former CEO of Bank of America Cresson Edith - EC Commissioner Daschle, Thomas - Senator, Minority Leader, U.S. Senate DeGier, Hans - CEO of Warburg Dillon Read Dehaene, Jean-Luc - Prime Minister of Belgium Dell, Michael - Dell Computers Denham, Bob - Salomon Smith Barney Dinstein, Yoram - President of Tel Aviv University-TAU Disney, Roy - Vice Chairman & Nephew - Walt Disney Ebtekar, Massoomeh - Vice President of Iran Eisenberg, Erwin - Heir to Eisenberg Group Ellison, Larry - CEO of Oracle Engibous, Tom - Texas Instruments-TI Esrey, Bill - CEO of Sprint Estrada, Joseph - President of the Philippines Fahd, King - Leader of Saudi Arabia Fan, Rita - Chairwoman Provincial Legislature China Fisher, Max - Chairman, Republican National Jewish Coalition-NJC Fisher, Richard - CEO of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter Fortune 1000 - Group Focus Letter Frankel, Jacob - Bank of Israel Friedlander, Yehuda - Rector of Bar Ilan University Fuld, Fichard - CEO of Lehman Brothers (acquired Blount Intl) Gates, Bill - CEO of Microsoft Gerstner, Lou - CEO of IBM Glavin, Christopher - Motorola - Strategy Focus Goh Chok Tong - Prime Minister of Singapore Goldberg, Ed - Merrill Lynch - Strategy Focus Grafton, Bob - CEO of Arthur Andersen Worldwide Grasso, Richard - CEO, New York Stock Exchange-NYSE Greer, Phil - Weiss Peck & Greer Grove, Andy - Former CEO of Intel Gujral, I.K. - Former Prime Minister of India Habibie, B. J. - Indonesia's Prime Minister Hammerman, Stephen - Vice Chairman Merrill Lynch Harari, Chaim - President of Weizmann Institute Hariri, Rafik - Prime Minister of Lebanon Hashimoto, Ryutaro - Former Prime Minister of Japan Hastert, Dennis - GOP - Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Hayuth, Yehuda - President of Haifa University Honeycutt, Van - CEO Computer Sciences Corporation-CSC Horovitz, Avraham - GM - UMI Israel Chief Scientist Howard, John - Prime Minister of Australia Hussein, King - of Jordan and The Crown Prince Hassan (HK: Deceased) Ichan, Carl - Wall Street Financier Jackson, Judge Thomas Penfield - US District Court - Washington D. C. Jiang Zemin - President of China Jobs, Steven - Apple Computers Jospin, Lionel - Prime Minister of France Kangas, Edward - CEO Deloitte, Touche, Tohmatsu - International-DTTI Kaveh, Moshe - President of Bar Ilan University Khatami, Mohammed - President of Iran Kim, Dea.jung - President of South Korea Kim Young-sam - Former President of South Korea Kissinger, Kissinger - former U.S. Secretary of State Kok, Wim - Prime Minister of the Netherlands Koller, Arnold - President of Switzerland Komansky, David - CEO of Merrill Lynch Kohl, Helmut - Former Chancellor of Germany Lane, Neal - Former Director of the NSF Laskawy, Phil - CEO of Ernst & Young-EY Lavie, Arie - Former Chief Scientist - Israel Lee Kuan-Yew - President of Singapore Lee Teng-hui - President of Taiwan Leon, Moshe - Director General, PM's Office Israel Lerner, Alex - Israeli Scientist Levin, Gerald - CEO Time Warner, Inc. Li Peng - Prime Minister of China Livingston, Robert - GOP Nominee as - U.S. Speaker of the House Lott, Senator Trent - GOP Senate Majority Leader - US Senate Magidor, Menachem - President of Hebrew University Mahathir Mohamad - Malaysian Prime Minister Mandella, Nelson - President of South Africa Marron, Donald - CEO of Paine Webber Group - Enterprise Strategy McGinn Richard - CEO of Lucent- Enterprise Strategy McNealy, Scott - CEO of Sun Microsystems Middelhoff, Thomas - CEO Bertelsmann & AOL Director Mitchell, George - Former GOP Senate Majority Leader Moore, Nicholas - Chairman of PriceWaterhouse Coopers-PWC L.L.P. Mubarak, Hosni - President of Egypt Murdoch, Rupert - Austrialian Media Owner Narayanan, K.R. - Former President of India Ne'eman, Yaacov - Former Israeli Finance Minister Ne'eman, Yuval- Israeli Physicist Obuchi, Keizo - Prime Minister of Japan Oz, Amos - Israeli writer Palmer, Robert - CEO of Digital Equipment Corporation-DEC Paulson, Henry - Co-Chairman Goldman Sachs Persson, Goran - Prime Minister of Sweden Pfeiffer, Eckhard - CEO of Compaq Phelan, John - Former CEO NYSE & Director of ML and the BCG Phypers, Dean - Former CFO of IBM Platt, Lewis - CEO Hewlitt Packard-HP Pope John Paul II - Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church-RCC Pottruck, David - Charles A. Schwab & Company Primakov, Yevgeny - Russian Prime Minister Prodi, Romano - Former Prime Minister of Italy Purcell, Philip - CEO of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter Ramos, Fidel - Former President of Philippines Raymond, Lee - CEO Exxon Redstone, Sumner - CEO of Viacom - HBO Reichman, Uriel - President of the Inter Disciplinary Center- IDC Israel Reichmann, Paul - Canadian Businessman Rodin, Judith - President of the University of Pennsylvania Roosa, Robert - Former Chairman Brown Brothers Harriman (of blessed emory) Samuelson, Paul - MIT Economics Nobel Laureate Santer, Jacques - President of the European Commission-EC Schiro, James - CEO PriceWaterhouse Coopers-PWC Schroeder, Gerhard - German Chancellor Schwab, Charles - Charles A. Schwab & Company Sharman, Colin - Chairman KPMG Shipley, Walter - CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank Spielberg, Steven - Hollywood Film Producer Slahor, Paul - Founding Investor in IPC Slavin, Shmuel - Director General of Israel's Finance Ministry Smith, Jack - CEO of General Motors-GM Soros, George - President of the Soros Fund Spector, Norman - Publisher Jerusalem Post Tadmor, Zeev - President of Technion Trotman, Alexander - CEO of Ford Motor Company Tung Chee-hwa - Hong Kong Chief Executive Turner, Ted - CEO Turner Broadcasting Systems-TBS - CNN Vajpayee, Atal Behari - Prime Minister of India Wang Changyi - China's Ambassador to Israel Wang, Charles - CEO of Computer Associates International-CAI Weill, Sandy - CEO Travelers-Citigroup Weinbach, Arthur - CEO of Automatic Data Procesing-ADP Weinbach, Lawrence - CEO of Unisys Yair, Yoram - Former Israel Defense Forces Yehoshua, A.B. - Israeli writer Yeltsin, Boris - President of Russia Zedillo, Ernesto - President of Mexico Zeroual, Liamine - President of Algeria

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), May 26, 1999

Answers

Of course, this secrecy also guarantees that the vast majority of the world's citizenry is kept completely in the dark regarding Bilderberg deliberations, even though the consensus of the Group may affect national and international government and commerce.

The extremes to which the Bilderberg goes to achieve this level of secrecy raises serious suspicions about the Group's motives in the minds of many. Critics of the Bilderberg say:

The Group perceives itself as being supra-governmental. Indeed, Bilderberg founder Prince Bernhard himself once said, "It is difficult to re-educate people who have been brought up on nationalism to the idea of relinquishing part of their sovereignty to a supra-national body." (Alden Hatch, H. R. H. Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands: An Authorized Biography, G. G. Harrap & Co. [London], 1962.)

The Group coercively manipulates global finances and establishes rigid and binding monetary rates around the world.

The Group selects political figures whom the Bilderberg determines should become rulers, and targets those whom it wants removed from power.

Rather than pursuing an agenda which would work to solve global health, energy, environmental and agricultural problems, the Group pursues an agenda which guarantees the propagation of its own power and the enrichment of its members, at the expense of human rights and environmental degradation worldwide. As Bilderberg critic Tony Gosling wrote, "One cannot help but be a little suspicious when priorities for the future of mankind are being considered, by those who have real influence over that future, in total secret."

Y2K is putting a big bug in their plans for a New World Order. I predict this will be their last meeting. b

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), May 26, 1999.

No BB, I'm afriad that you've got it wrong. The bilderbergers and their NWO agenda will BENEFIT from y2k, as it will give them the excuse to take over, as people will be desperate for a hero. That hero will be the antichrist, who will be the chosen person of the NWO builders, and will be made into a "God" by those in power. When the Antichrist appears he will seem a god sent champion to those people who have been impoverished by the y2k disaster, much in the same way Hitler was seen by the Germans in the Great Depression. The sheeple will choose to give up their freedoms for food... They choose to live on their knees, rather than to die as men... All signs point to this, such as the recent support for gun "control".

-- Crono (Crono@timesend.com), May 26, 1999.

Don't sweat it guys. I'm SURE they have our best interests at heart. ;~{

-- humpty (no.6@thevillage.com), May 26, 1999.

GEEZ. I usually agree with WorldNetDaily. But they got a name wrong on that guest list for this "secret meeting in Portugal". It makes me question the validity of others listed, and the meeting in general.

They mention "Les Alberthal, CEO of EDS" in the guest list. I used to work for the guy many, many years ago. Les Alberthal announced his retirement from EDS last August. Richard H. Brown has been EDS CEO since December 10, 1998.

-- Cheryl (Transplant@Oregon.com), May 26, 1999.

Crono,

Are you aware that your views on the Antichrist are of relatively recent origin and unbiblical? You may find this surprising, since nearly all American Protestants these days incorrectly hold this view. Your semi-Pelagian premillennial dispensationalist eschatology has only been in vogue for about the last 180 years. It came primarily from the Second Great Awakening in the United States, and contradicts the received wisdom of the body of Christ throughout the centuries. The Apostles themselves clearly understood that the word "end" in the expression "end times" referred to the end of the Old Covenant and the sacrificial system of worship.

The Great Tribulation refers to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, which did in fact end Temple worship for good. Most events in Revelation that evangelicals think are going to happen in the future (the futurist view of Revelation) were in fact fulfilled in the past (the preterist view of Revelation.

If you are interested in how the Apostles and the early Church correctly understood the Revelation of Jesus Christ to Saint John, you may want to read David Chilton's book, The Great Tribulation. If you want to order it from a bookstore the ISBN is 0-930462-55-6. Or you can read it online for free at The Institute for Christian Economics

Here is a description of the book:

Are we living in the Last Days? Are the signs of our times the Signs of the End? Is the Great Tribulation just around the corner? For almost three generations evangelical Christians have answered these questions with an unequivocal "YES"!

In this challenging new book by David Chilton, all the prophetic passages of Scripture dealing with the End Times are re-examined with careful attention to every revealing detail. And his conclusions are nearly as startling as the prophesies themselves.

The Great Tribulation is the kind of sane, balanced, and easy to understand introduction to End Times theology that Christians have needed from a long, long time.

For centuries, Christian have sought to interpret the Bible's scriptural meaning - often erroneously assigning modern ideology to scriptural passages. This is perhaps the most comprehensive and easily understood writing available on this cataclysmic event "which so many Christians are awaiting." As Chilton proves however, it will be a long wait, since this event occurred in A.D. 70. This book is also an excellent tool for modern man in learning how Scripture interprets Scripture.

Best wishes,

-- Prometheus (fire@for.man), May 26, 1999.

Ackerman, Duane - CEO Bell South
Ahern, Bertie - Prime Minister of Ireland
Alberthal, Les - CEO of Electronic Data Systems (EDS)
Albright, Madeleine - U.S. Secretary of State
Al Saud, Waleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz - Saudi Prince
Amichai, Yehuda - Israeli poet
Annan, Kofi - U.N. Secretary General
Arafat, Yasser - Chairman Palestinian Authority
Armstrong, Michael - CEO of AT&T Corrporation
Arison, Ted - Israeli Financier
Assad, Hafez - President of Syria
Aznar, Jose Maria - President of Spain
Belluzzo, Richard - CEO - Silicon Graphics-SGI
Bolkiah, Hassanal - The Sultan of Brunei
Buffet, Warren - Berkshire Hathaway
Byers, Brook - Partner KPCB
Beyster, J. R. - Founder and CEO of SAIC
Bialkin, Ken - Skadden Arps
bin-Mohamad, Mahathir - PM of Malaysia
Blair, Tony - Prime Minister of UK
Bondevik, Kjell Magne - Prime Minister of Norway
Bonsignore, Michael - CEO Honeywell
Braverman, Avishai - President of Ben-Gurion University
Bronfman, Charles - Canadian businessman
Buffet, Warren, CEO Berkshire Hathaway
Cardoso, Fernando Henrique - President of Brazil
Case, Daniel - Chairman & CEO of H& Q
Case, Stephen - CEO of America On-Line-AOL
Caufield, Frank - AOL Board & Partner KPCB
Cayne, James - CEO of Bear Stearn
Chalsty, John - CEO of DLJ
Chambers, John - CEO of Cisco Systems
Chirac, Jacques - President of Franc
Chretien, Jean - Prime Minister of Canada
Clinton, Bill - President of the United States
Cohen, Abby - Market Strategist, Goldman Sachs
Corzine, Jon - CEO of Goldman Sachs
Coulter, David - Former CEO of Bank of America
Cresson, Edith - EC Commissioner
Daschle, Thomas - Senator, Minority Leader, U.S. Senate
DeGier, Hans - CEO of Warburg Dillon Read
Dehaene, Jean-Luc - Prime Minister of Belgium
Dell, Michael - Dell Computers
Denham, Bob - Salomon Smith Barney
Dinstein, Yoram - President of Tel Aviv University-TAU
Disney, Roy - Vice Chairman & Nephew - Walt Disney
Ebtekar, Massoomeh - Vice President of Iran
Eisenberg, Erwin - Heir to Eisenberg Group
Ellison, Larry - CEO of Oracle
Engibous, Tom - Texas Instruments-TI
Esrey, Bill - CEO of Sprint
Estrada, Joseph - President of the Philippines
Fahd, King - Leader of Saudi Arabia
Fan, Rita - Chairwoman Provincial Legislature China
Fisher, Max - Chairman, Republican National Jewish Coalition-NJC
Fisher, Richard - CEO of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter Fortune 1000 - Group Focus Letter
Frankel, Jacob - Bank of Israel
Friedlander, Yehuda - Rector of Bar Ilan University
Fuld, Fichard - CEO of Lehman Brothers (acquired Blount Intl)
Gates, Bill - CEO of Microsoft
Gerstner, Lou - CEO of IBM
Glavin, Christopher - Motorola - Strategy Focus
Goh Chok Tong - Prime Minister of Singapore
Goldberg, Ed - Merrill Lynch - Strategy Focus
Grafton, Bob - CEO of Arthur Andersen Worldwide
Grasso, Richard - CEO, New York Stock Exchange-NYSE
Greer, Phil - Weiss Peck & Greer
Grove, Andy - Former CEO of Intel
Gujral, I.K. - Former Prime Minister of India
Habibie, B. J. - Indonesia's Prime Minister
Hammerman, Stephen - Vice Chairman Merrill Lynch
Harari, Chaim - President of Weizmann Institute
Hariri, Rafik - Prime Minister of Lebanon
Hashimoto, Ryutaro - Former Prime Minister of Japan
Hastert, Dennis - GOP - Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives
Hayuth, Yehuda - President of Haifa University
Honeycutt, Van - CEO Computer Sciences Corporation-CSC
Horovitz, Avraham - GM - UMI Israel Chief Scientist
Howard, John - Prime Minister of Australia
Hussein, King - of Jordan and The Crown Prince Hassan (HK: Deceased)
Ichan, Carl - Wall Street Financier
Jackson, Judge Thomas Penfield - US District Court - Washington D. C.
Jiang Zemin - President of China
Jobs, Steven - Apple Computer
Jospin, Lionel - Prime Minister of France
Kangas, Edward - CEO Deloitte, Touche, Tohmatsu - International-DTTI
Kaveh, Moshe - President of Bar Ilan University
Khatami, Mohammed - President of Iran
Kim, Dea.jung - President of South Korea
Kim Young-sam - Former President of South Korea
Kissinger, Henry - former U.S. Secretary of State
Kok, Wim - Prime Minister of the Netherlands
Koller, Arnold - President of Switzerland
Komansky, David - CEO of Merrill Lynch
Kohl, Helmut - Former Chancellor of Germany
Lane, Neal - Former Director of the NSF
Laskawy, Phil - CEO of Ernst & Young-EY
Lavie, Arie - Former Chief Scientist - Israel
Lee Kuan-Yew - President of Singapore
Lee Teng-hui - President of Taiwan
Leon, Moshe - Director General, PM's Office Israel
Lerner, Alex - Israeli Scientist
Levin, Gerald - CEO Time Warner, Inc.
Li Peng - Prime Minister of China
Livingston, Robert - GOP Nominee as - U.S. Speaker of the House
Lott, Senator Trent - GOP Senate Majority Leader - US Senate
Magidor, Menachem - President of Hebrew University
Mahathir Mohamad - Malaysian Prime Minister
Mandella, Nelson - President of South Africa
Marron, Donald - CEO of Paine Webber Group - Enterprise Strategy
McGinn, Richard - CEO of Lucent- Enterprise Strategy
McNealy, Scott - CEO of Sun Microsystems
Middelhoff, Thomas - CEO Bertelsmann & AOL Director
Mitchell, George - Former GOP Senate Majority Leader
Moore, Nicholas - Chairman of PriceWaterhouse Coopers-PWC L.L.P.
Mubarak, Hosni - President of Egypt
Murdoch, Rupert - Austrialian Media Owner
Narayanan, K.R. - Former President of India
Ne'eman, Yaacov - Former Israeli Finance Minister
Ne'eman, Yuval- Israeli Physicist
Obuchi, Keizo - Prime Minister of Japan
Oz, Amos - Israeli writer
Palmer, Robert - CEO of Digital Equipment Corporation-DEC
Paulson, Henry - Co-Chairman Goldman Sachs
Persson, Goran - Prime Minister of Sweden
Pfeiffer, Eckhard - CEO of Compaq
Phelan, John - Former CEO NYSE & Director of ML and the BCG
Phypers, Dean - Former CFO of IBM
Platt, Lewis - CEO Hewlitt Packard-HP
Pope John Paul II - Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church-RCC
Pottruck, David - Charles A. Schwab & Company
Primakov, Yevgeny - Russian Prime Minister
Prodi, Romano - Former Prime Minister of Italy
Purcell, Philip - CEO of Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
Ramos, Fidel - Former President of Philippines
Raymond, Lee - CEO Exxon
Redstone, Sumner - CEO of Viacom - HBO
Reichman, Uriel - President of the Inter Disciplinary Center- IDC Israel
Reichmann, Paul - Canadian Businessman
Rodin, Judith - President of the University of Pennsylvania
Roosa, Robert - Former Chairman Brown Brothers Harriman (of blessed emory)
Samuelson, Paul - MIT Economics Nobel Laureate
Santer, Jacques - President of the European Commission-EC
Schiro, James - CEO PriceWaterhouse Coopers-PWC
Schroeder, Gerhard - German Chancellor
Schwab, Charles - Charles A. Schwab & Company
Sharman, Colin - Chairman KPMG
Shipley, Walter - CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank
Spielberg, Steven - Hollywood Film Producer
Slahor, Paul - Founding Investor in IPC
Slavin, Shmuel - Director General of Israel's Finance Ministry
Smith, Jack - CEO of General Motors-GM
Soros, George - President of the Soros Fund
Spector, Norman - Publisher Jerusalem Post
Tadmor, Zeev - President of Technion
Trotman, Alexander - CEO of Ford Motor Company
Tung Chee-hwa - Hong Kong Chief Executive
Turner, Ted - CEO Turner Broadcasting Systems-TBS - CNN
Vajpayee, Atal Behari - Prime Minister of India
Wang Changyi - China's Ambassador to Israel
Wang, Charles - CEO of Computer Associates International-CAI
Weill, Sandy - CEO Travelers-Citigroup
Weinbach, Arthur - CEO of Automatic Data Procesing-ADP
Weinbach, Lawrence - CEO of Unisys
Yair, Yoram - Former Israel Defense Forces
Yehoshua, A.B. - Israeli writer
Yeltsin, Boris - President of Russia
Zedillo, Ernesto - President of Mexico
Zeroual, Liamine - President of Algeria


-- FWIW (pickypicky@cleanupcrew.com), May 26, 1999.

Would be a shame if any of our "smart bombs" went astray and hit that collective group. But I don't think they're that smart.

-- A. Hambley (a.hambley@usa.net), May 26, 1999.

Gee - with a list like that...what a security nightmare for the Secret Squirrels! Talk about terrorism looking for a place to happen!

-- Valkyrie (anon@please.net), May 26, 1999.

If you look at the number of bankers and computer industry officials on that list it is obvious Y2K is going to be one of the main, if not the main, topics of discussion and planning. I'm not real happy that the results and text of this meeting are secret. The information exchanged by this group is going to provide a much clearer picture of the potential worldwide effects on the infrastructure and economy of the planet. It should be shared.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), May 26, 1999.

This list is so long, it make me wonder who of importance was left off. Any nominations?

-- GA Russell (garussell@russellga.com), May 26, 1999.

Valkyrie,

This assemblage of people is terrorism.

-- DMH (not@just.yet), May 26, 1999.

Are you people complete fucking morons or what? This so called 'secret' meeting has to be the worst kept secret in history. The date, time, location, and invitees are all known! Great secret!

Does any rational person think that even one tenth of the people on that list would agree to meet in the same place without massive security precautions? And how do you make massive security precautions in a little town in Portugal without drawing attention? And, with that much attention, how do you have s secret meeting?

If such a meeting were really to take place, why wouldn't every radical fringe terrorist group in the world take a shot? Even if you only kill a handful, that would have an enormous impact. And think about the press you would get -- it would be HUGE!!

Hey! Here's an idea. Lets get some of those mysterious jets with the grid patterned contrails and fly over Portugal. We could make all of those people sick at the same time, bringing the world to a grinding halt.

-- Do You See (howstupid@you.look), May 26, 1999.

Do You See,

"If the meeting actually took place..."

Are saying that this meeting is not going to take place?

And the word 'secret' is not our word but theirs. It describes their sworn vow to to discuss with the press whatever is discussed. Only in the past couple of years has their been leaks. Paul Gigot, TV commentator was there last year and he feels it is much ado about nothing. But it is the side conversations, the off agenda sidebars that hold the true intrigue to the decisions that are made here.

Be careful about your contrail idea. This forum is monitored by the FBI and you just suggested assasinations.

-- BB (peace2u@bellatlantic.net), May 26, 1999.

Do you Know--Yes I do, apparently you don't though.

Here's a new trend for you. I was watching Chris Matthews on hardball last month and he was doing a segment on David Duke, ex Klan wizzer and candidate for the house. Now he could have called him a racist, nazi, or hate monger. All terms the media has used to describe him in the past, but what term did he choose? Nationalist. OH NO!! Watching Brian williams this evening on the propoganda box ellucidating on the sordid history of Milosevic and the pending war crimes charges. Was Milosevic a mass murderer? A communist? A genocidal maniac? No, he is a Nationalist. NOT ANOTHER ONE!!! But wait, wasn't george Washington a nationalist? Teddy Roosevelt? Abraham Lincoln, grandaddy of all nationalist? What about John Kennedy? George Patton, McArthur, Eisenhower, Jefferson, Truman, Andy Jackson, Ben Franklin, Francis Scott Keyes for God's Sake!!! Tell me it aint so. Even John Wayne, my childhood hero, was a closet nationalist. To think he was proud to be an American, and didn't wear pink ladies panties like J. Edgar,(who is Janet Reno's hero by the way) or take political payoffs from China in exchange for our nuclear weapons plans like Billy Jeff, who is by the way definitely not a nationalist. Unless he's a Chinese nationalist. So here we are, first the Christian right, then the militia's, then the y2k preppers, now the nationalist. DEMONS ALL!!!!EVIL, OBEY, BUY NIKE. Things go better with coke.

-- Nikoli Krushev (doomsday@y2000.com), May 26, 1999.