Jim Lord comes right out and says it...without the usual Westergaard disclaimers

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http://www.y2ktimebomb.com/Tip/Lord/lord9913.htm

relevant quote:

"You see, if you take the time to read the source documentation and dig down into it, even NERC admits they don't know if we are going to have power or not. They should stop giving us these unsubstantiated, happy-face reports.

They should just tell us the truth.

My Tip of the Week is to seriously prepare for power outages in your home and in your community. We're not getting the whole truth out of these folks and until we do, you should prepare for the possibility of much worse that any silly three to five day inconvenience."

-- Arlin H. Adams (ahadams@ix.netcom.com), March 29, 1999

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Nah, Arlin, best quote from Lord's column:

"NERC is a trade association for Pete's sake. Its board of directors is made up of 38 executives from the electrical utility industry. They have a built in bias to make the industry look good. None of the NERC data has been independently validated. Putting all your faith in NERC (or any other trade association) is like letting your daughter go out with some guy because his mother told you he was a nice person."

It's more like letting your daughter go out with some guy because his parole officer told you he was a nice person.

-- rick blaine (y2kazoo@hotmail.com), March 29, 1999.


LOL! too true Rick, too true!

Arlin

-- Arlin H. Adams (ahadams@ix.netcom.com), March 29, 1999.


couln't make the URL work. LINK please?

-- Taz (Tassie@aol.com), March 29, 1999.

It worked OK for me:

Jim Lord's Article

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), March 29, 1999.


I happen to go by some LARGE truck refueling stations just off I-10 quite frequently. I have noticed MANY flatbed trailers with used military generators pulling in for refueling.

Ray

-- Ray (ray@totacc.com), March 29, 1999.



Link

Will Y2K Turn the Lights Off?

Took a look at Jim Lord's book. Not a big help. Now what are folks going to do in the big cities if the power goes out.....

-- Brian (imager@ampsc.com), March 29, 1999.


Bri-

It's Jim Lord's fault folks in the cities are at risk? And it's his job to come up with a solution?

-- rick blaine (y2kazoo@hotmail.com), March 29, 1999.


I have seen very recent documents stating that the military is now expanding contingency planning based on the assumption that power will be disrupted during the millenium passage in completely unpredictable ways. Local preparation will be encouraged and assisted. Martial law is not expected. National defense is priority #1. Domestic assistance is at the end of the list, but contingency planning for it is underway.

Sorry, but as usual, references would be awkward.

-- (Busy@the.top), March 29, 1999.


It's impossible to know "busy's" bona fides, but this is my expected scenario almost to the "t". Whatever happens with Bosnia, the "state of the post-Y2K world" must be keeping our planners up at night far more than what happens in Peoria.

If I were Slick and the gang, I'll be crossing my fingers that American folk exhibit their historic self-reliance, good nature and community help (not that they/we have any right to count on that anymore), since I/Slick will need every ounce of civic and military support available to keep projecting our power overseas > 2000, ESPECIALLY if things are dicey domestically.

-- BigDog (BigDog@duffer.com), March 29, 1999.


"I happen to go by some LARGE truck refueling stations just off I- 10 quite frequently. I have noticed MANY flatbed trailers with used military generators pulling in for refueling. "

Might be war related. We DID attack part of the former Soviet Union last week. On talk-radio earlier today, someone was asking about tanks (you know, big guns...) being moved by train with a "sideways V" painted on the side. The guest ex-Marine Captain said it sounded like a marking typical for the sort of joint operation we have now attacking the former Soviet Union.

Frankly, though, I would rather worry about Y2K than war. Somehow, the local "gang-bangers" seem a lot less annoying than a well armed foreign nation attacking the US.

-- Anonymous99 (Anonymous99@Anonymous.com), March 29, 1999.



It isn't just trucks hauling military generators on I-10. Up in my neck of the woods, there have been an awful lot of of oversize loads being hauled up I-81.

What are these loads? Generators from power plants going to GE In Schenectedy for repair. I wonder if there isn't a lot of generating station maintenance being done this spring which would normally be done this fall. That and any spare generator being "spruced up" just in case it's needed in the next year.

And then there's the rail traffic. Going by my house there have been lots of those same power plant generators and some interesting military cargo. Large, US Army-owned, fixed-site diesel generators. Maybe on their way overseas, maybe on their way to major east coast metropolitan staging locations.

I've seen these things before. They're stored and maintained at the Air Force Base in Ogden, UT, where I've spent quite a bit of time. I wonder who gets one of these "ultimate home diesel generating sets"?

WW

-- Wildweasel (vtmldm@epix.net), March 29, 1999.


I've seen what looks like very interesting and very significant reporting in this thread. I would encourage any of you who sees this transport of generators to take pictures for us.

Also, Busy@the.top, please tell us where you have seen very recent documents stating that the military is now expanding contingency planning based on the assumption that power will be disrupted during the millenium passage in completely unpredictable ways, etc.

-- Rick (doc_u_ment@hotmail.com), March 30, 1999.


And after you finish listening to him tell you how bad things are you can by a book, newsletter, and Y2k kit from him.

Can anyone say sales pitch!!!!

-- ???? (???@?.?), March 30, 1999.


>>> And after you finish listening to him tell you how bad things are you can by a book, newsletter, and Y2k kit from him.

Mr./Ms. ??? Sorry, you picked the wrong scapegoat. You're seeing what you want to see (yours is an attitude in search of evidence). Jim Lord's book and all his past newsletters are up on the web, to be read free of charge.

-- Debbie (dbspence@usa.net), March 30, 1999.


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