I wonder if anyone can help me out here. I've just been reading a fascinating book on Nostradamus "The New Revelations" by John Hogue.

Some of his millennial quatrains struck a chord with me in that they seemed to tie in with what a Sufi Prophet predicted back in 1920, that at the new millennium man would fear and fight other men, run to hide in the hills, mass starvation etc. etc.

I'd like to follow up on this with a little more reading, but I can't remember the name. I did see the prophecy however on a Y2K related home page some time ago - haven't mangaged to find it since. Anyone else recall seeing this site, or have any idea of the author??? Thanks in advance, Andy.

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 11, 1998

Answers

Andy,

When you say Sufi prophet, the first name that comes to mind is Gurdjieff. I've never heard, though, that Gurdjieff made any predictions.

Is it him?

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), December 11, 1998.

No it wasn't him Kevin - I had never heard his name before, I'm still checking sites on the net, thank for the heads up!

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 11, 1998.

No it wasn't him Kevin - I had never heard his name before, I'm still checking sites on the net, thank for the heads-up!

-- Andy (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 11, 1998.

Almost forgot. Here's a site that tries to say Nostradamus predicted Y2K:

http://www.pacificnet.net/~mjh/nostra~1.htm

It's interesting, but then again, Nostradamus can be interpreted as predicting nearly anything.

-- Andy (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), December 11, 1998.

Andy,

I'm not sure how your name got on my message. Either it's a glitch, or the fact the it's 5 AM and I'm typing now instead of sleeping ... (Kevin yawns)...

Time to recharge the batteries! 8-)

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), December 11, 1998.

Yes - strange that Kevin!!! Just read your link, thanks very much for that, really ties in with my thinking on the subject. 2am - better hit the hay too! Later, Andy

-- Kevin (2000EOD@prodigy.net), December 11, 1998.

In the December issue of FATE magazine (on page 13) a regular columnist announced a Y2K contest. He asks that you hunt through Nostradamus's quatrains to see if any could relate to Y2K. I'm not ambitious enough to enter the contest, but I am eager to see the results.

-- Pearlie Sweetcake (storestuff@home.now), December 12, 1998.

Andy, There is a prophecy by Mother Shipton that sounds like what you quoted. Mother Shipton lived in the 15th century so I may be way off from your Sufi Prophet. Here is a quote from her prediction

When pictures seem alive with movements free When boats like fishes swim beneath the sea, When men like birds shall scour the sky Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.

For those who live the century through In fear and trmbling this shall do. Flee to the mountains and the dens To bog and forest and wild fens.

Read the entire wierd thing at

http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/Shipton.html

Bugbite

-- Bugbite (Bugbite@kfalls.net), December 12, 1998.

As long as we're on the subject of prophets, why not delve into what the Bible says about the tests of a true prophet...if no one has any objection...(or if they do, for that matter)

(1) I John 4:2 -- "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God."

a "prophet" that isn't a Christian ain't no prophet, according to the Bible....that leaves Jeane Dixon, Edgar Cayce, Dionne Warwick, all those 1-900 psychics slam out in the cold (Hint: in the Old Testament, all of those people would have been stoned to death, at God's orders)

(2) Isaiah 8:20 -- "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

If they disagree with God's revealed Word,....nope...uh-uh...negatory

(3) Jeremiah 28:9 -- "The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the Lord hath truly sent him."

(3a) Deuteronomy 18:22 -- "When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

A prophet of God is 100% accurate. Not 99%. Not 99.4%. 100%. God knows all, and doesn't make mistakes.

(4) Matthew 7:20 -- "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

Of course all of the foregoing presupposes that a person gives any credence to the Bible. We all have our opinions.

-- John Howard (Greenville, NC) (pcdir@prodigy.net), December 16, 1998.

John,

I agree with you that not all prophets are true prophets. The Bible has excellent guidelines for discerning between the two.

You need to explain one thing, though. You said that a prophet that isn't a Christian ain't no prophet, so that leaves out Jeane Dixon and Edgar Cayce from being true prophets. How do you know Jeane Dixon and Edgar Cayce aren't Christians?

-- Kevin (mixesmusic@worldnet.att.net), December 16, 1998.

Don't you all know that outside the Church of Rome, there is no salvation? Repent ye all non-catholic sinners! For y2k is upon us, and the end is nigh!

Alternatively, send a hefty donation to the Vatican, and the Pope will absolve all your sins and hand you a ticket to haven.

-- Biblethumper (biblethumper@biblesRus.com), December 16, 1998.

Today is December the 29th year 2004. I was just looking thru Google to see if there was anything about the major earthquake and tsunami. Nostradamus came to mind. I've stumbled acrosss this page and have found the previous responses were written in the year 1998. Alot of shit has happened since 1998. I'm getting ready to break into 2005 in two days. In response to the previous responses, REMEMBER!! "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave site safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy Shit...what a ride!!"

-- Goatman (getlitnow@adelphia.net), December 29, 2004.