christel: count on you to open pandora's box...:) i used to say that there are only two issues that i would never openly debate on a forum such as this: politics and religion; to that duo i must now add a third: the question of what makes a woman beautiful. there can be no definitive response, for surely beauty is the most subjective of all judgments. for myself, i can only mirror the attitude expressed by justice clark of the u.s. supreme court, when speaking, of all things, about the definition of obscenity: i can't tell you exactly what it is, but i know it when i see it, said the judge. i feel exactly the same way when confronted with the visage of *any* woman for the first time.(posted 8500 days ago)that's about as hard as i choose to hit this tar baby.