I like the pictures. I think that they both succeed artistically. Unless the light is really dim, we have a lot of choices as to the kind of grain that we get, of course. For informal portraits, I have used several combinations: Pan F in Rodinal, with tiny but crystalline-sharp grain, to FP4+ in D-76 (enlarges really well, to Tri-X in D-76 (EI 400) and 1600 (Xtol). I like to use Delta 3200(Xtol) in dim light, as long as the mood of the lighting is dark, too. I keep going back to Tri-X, and FP4+ if there is enough light. It seems to me that one of the reasons for the continued popularity of Tri-X is that its grain can harmonize beautifully with the texture of skin.(posted 8593 days ago)With all of these, the grain does figure into the final result. I don't think that in 35mm photography, we can get away from grain, so we let it work for us. Thanks for sharing these fine examples from the high-speed end of things.