Most of my black and white stuff is done in low light, so I had to learn to live with grain- I've done all I can to minimize it in pushed or fast film, but but more often than not it puts a Nixon-esqe 5 o'clock shadow on a face when I'm trying to boost the contrast a little. I think everyone likes it when it's behaving itself--- by the way bluejean cloth, especially on jackets, is my favorite B&W fabric to shoot.... it makes everyone look good-(posted 8595 days ago)